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Old 12-29-2010, 10:44 AM   #12
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Default Re: Incident Dissonance vs. Recurring Dissonance

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Yeah, my bad. It came out wrong because I was actually mistaken.

I was under the impression that if Marisol failed her Will roll, she would have to go -- and given that the Will roll was near impossible to make, I assumed that she'd probably fail.
I made the exact same mistake. It wasn't until I started sifting through Lilith, IPG and Core that I got caught that.

A Geas still allows free will. That was tripping me up.

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The time-increment factor for incurring dissonance seems to be what's confusing us (me), particularly given the nature of the example above. In order to clarify it, I took a look at the Core Guide and checked out Geas as a form of discord.

Apparently, the "time allotted to complete the task" helps to determine the level of the Geas. It's worded in such a way as to make it really tricky, but essentially, if you give me a burden and the amount of time it takes me to complete the burden is reasonably about one hour (drive to the library, sign up for a library card and get me this book,") it counts as a Geas/1.

SNIP

Here's what's weird about this: if I self-geas with, "I promise officially to go to a nearby library and check out the book, Angels & Demons, by Dan Brown, which I will give to you upon my return," I get a rate of dissonance equal to one per hour until you get your book, and that's on a Geas/1! Granted, it all goes away when I give you the book...but still!
I KNOW! If Marisol gyps Curtis over an annual visit to Columbus, she gets 1 Diss and 12 months of 'freedom' (albeit, I would not let her work off that Diss with any of the myriad ways to self remove it)

But you said this:


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Do you suppose that you could spike the level of the Geas to shorten the "interval time" without shortening the time that you've allotted for the task to be complete?

If I self-geased with, "I promise officially that I will have a full report by next Wednesday at 10:00AM -- and not an hour later," and then swore a Geas/5 instead of a Geas/3 (treating the Geas as if you'd only given me an hour to work with for a seven day job), every hour that I kept you waiting would smack me with a point of dissonance, would it not?
That might be the answer I'm looking for. Marisol is in Greece. Curtis is in Columbus. Three hundred sixty five days after she left Columbus, she needs to be back. But say Marisol ran into some difficulties. A technical read of the rules means that all that happened is she gets a point of Dissonance and needs to show up in the next year...when it will go away. Yawn! No big deal particularly for a Geas/6!

A better ruling might be that it would take Marisol a day (with connections, time zones, and ground transport) to get from Greece to Columbus. So every DAY she chooses to not go after it comes due, she gets dinged with Dis!*

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Regarding the table in the Core Book. The table in Lilith is much more complete. The risk reward factor makes things nicer.

For example: That phone call that Curtis is avoiding. If he KNEW that the call would likely result in him being 'volunteered' for a frontal assault on a tether of David, it would be a much larger Geas then that /1. An unknowing Curtis could be induced to call with a Geas/1.

Geases are tricky things...

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One last request: I need help pricing out that Geas. Marisol has information regarding the tethers of Columbus. She swore the guy who kept her safe that she would update his information with an annual visit. The city would be more dangerous then most citiesfor her, but not egregiously so, though her research would take more then a day and would involve getting near Heavenly and Infernal tethers.

What would be the initial cost?

How long would it last?


*Interestingly, if she was a human from the 19th century, she might only get hit with body hits for every two months she doesn't arrive.
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