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Old 11-27-2010, 02:38 AM   #1
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Default [LT] Hundreds of pics of weapons,armors and shields

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Unrelated;Question about Windlass crossbows.
LT states that it takes 5 sec to attach them.Can they stay attached or do you have to remove them before shooting?

What kind of armor is that on horse(scale or segmented plate)?
How much more does horse armor that covers 50% of horses legs cost?

Edit: Could someone please post link to LTs "mail and plates" armor pic.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:26 AM   #2
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That's a great link. Thanks.
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:18 AM   #3
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What kind of armor is that on horse(scale or segmented plate)?
Neither. It is mail and plates. Here is a nice example from the British Museum
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45777493@N06/4466741606/
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:48 AM   #4
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Neither. It is mail and plates. Here is a nice example from the British Museum
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45777493@N06/4466741606/
Thanks you ...(would you be so kind to "chime" on other 2 questions also please)
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Old 11-27-2010, 12:24 PM   #5
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I don't actually have historical documents, but I can't imagine that anyone would design a windlass that had to be dismounted before you could actually shoot the crossbow! And if it could stay attached which you shot, surely you wouldn't need to detach it and reattach it to cock the crossbow again. I just took it for granted that that was how it worked.

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Old 11-27-2010, 01:48 PM   #6
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I don't actually have historical documents, but I can't imagine that anyone would design a windlass that had to be dismounted before you could actually shoot the crossbow! And if it could stay attached which you shot, surely you wouldn't need to detach it and reattach it to cock the crossbow again. I just took it for granted that that was how it worked.

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Most of paintings show crossbowmen taking off the windlass to shot, if this wasn't needed, they would probably never done it.

I'm just an amateur, but if a player want to make this, I would give him -1 Acc... Or what Dan suggest in the future.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:04 PM   #7
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The illuminations of windlasses that I have seen show two honking large crank handles that would severly impede handling the crossbow. Plus you have to disconnect the hooks that are drawing the string back to the nut. That would just dangle in the way.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:12 PM   #8
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I don't actually have historical documents, but I can't imagine that anyone would design a windlass that had to be dismounted before you could actually shoot the crossbow! And if it could stay attached which you shot, surely you wouldn't need to detach it and reattach it to cock the crossbow again. I just took it for granted that that was how it worked.

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Many military windlasses don't actually need to be attached, since they are built into the crossbow. Those that do need to be attached are generally removed before shooting.

Removing them and untangling them so that they are ready to be used again (as opposed to throwing them down any old how, which makes them unusable for the next shot) can take as long or longer than spanning the prod.

On the other hand, the spanning itself, when done by a trained man, is very fast. As in, you can get it down to a few seconds.

The sources for this are insights from several professional makers of replica crossbows and forum posts by reenactors who build crossbows and windlasses and train to use them in an attempt to reconstruct how medieval and Renaissance people used crossbows. See myarmoury.com, Schola Forum, Fire Stryker Living History Forum and similar.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:26 PM   #9
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Ohh, bless those Chinese Mount & Blade fans. This one goes to my favorites.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:47 PM   #10
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Ohh, bless those Chinese Mount & Blade fans. This one goes to my favorites.
Yeah, some of the 'mysterious weapons of the East' were pretty nifty looking! Rule of Cool indeed!
I liked the pictures of the different armor types. I now have a much better idea of how mail and plates works.
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