[Low Tech] Some questions about helmets...

Sam Baughn · 10-28-2010, 10:50 AM

There seem to be some kinds of medieval helmet bits which don't quite fit the ones provided in Low-Tech.

A lot of helmets had a solid plate sticking out over the back of the neck. I guess this could be treated as a Lobsterback made of different materials, or as a kind of Brim for the neck.

Armets had detachable plates which covered the neck, ears, cheeks and jaw. Would it be reasonable to say these count as a combination of a Bevor and ear-covering Cheek Guards?

It seems that fifteenth century knights often used a kind of extended bevor (which I've also seen called a 'wrapper') which covered only the front of the neck but reached up to just under the eyes and was worn over other rigid armour. How should that be handled? I'm thinking maybe 8-10% of the cost and weight of torso armour, giving protection to the neck from the front and the face 3/6?

Likewise, some bevors extended quite low onto the chest. I'm thinking maybe giving them a 1/6 chance of counting towards chest DR from the front might be appropriate, for maybe another 6-7% of the cost and weight of torso armour.

Do spectacles cover the nose and, if not, is it allowable (or historically accurate) to combine them with nasals? Would this be a good way to represent the short visors seen on some later medieval helmets which only covered the eyes, nose and upper cheeks (the kind you usually see on salets and armets, for example)? If not, how should they be handled?

10-28-2010, 10:50 AM	#1
Sam Baughn Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain and some other bits.	[Low Tech] Some questions about helmets... There seem to be some kinds of medieval helmet bits which don't quite fit the ones provided in Low-Tech. A lot of helmets had a solid plate sticking out over the back of the neck. I guess this could be treated as a Lobsterback made of different materials, or as a kind of Brim for the neck. Armets had detachable plates which covered the neck, ears, cheeks and jaw. Would it be reasonable to say these count as a combination of a Bevor and ear-covering Cheek Guards? It seems that fifteenth century knights often used a kind of extended bevor (which I've also seen called a 'wrapper') which covered only the front of the neck but reached up to just under the eyes and was worn over other rigid armour. How should that be handled? I'm thinking maybe 8-10% of the cost and weight of torso armour, giving protection to the neck from the front and the face 3/6? Likewise, some bevors extended quite low onto the chest. I'm thinking maybe giving them a 1/6 chance of counting towards chest DR from the front might be appropriate, for maybe another 6-7% of the cost and weight of torso armour. Do spectacles cover the nose and, if not, is it allowable (or historically accurate) to combine them with nasals? Would this be a good way to represent the short visors seen on some later medieval helmets which only covered the eyes, nose and upper cheeks (the kind you usually see on salets and armets, for example)? If not, how should they be handled?