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Old 10-12-2010, 10:52 AM   #1
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Default Re: Only one DF race with an IQ bonus?

Well, you missed High-Elf (DF 3, page 7).
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:59 AM   #2
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Personally, I think that a large, strong, smart, and erudite race would be an interesting addition to DF. Perhaps something like the Frost-Giants from the Dark Horse adaptation of Howard's "Frost-Giant's Daughter".
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:02 AM   #3
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Well, you missed High-Elf (DF 3, page 7).
Nyaha! Ok, that actually makes me feel a little less befuddled.

Elves are one of the races that "traditionally" attract mental stat bonuses, and I was getting really confused that "not even" the elves got an IQ bonus.

Strong, smart and erudite also equates to "expensive" of course (frex those Celestials) but I don't really see a problem with that. Player will have to find the points, or just live without.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:11 AM   #4
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Elves are one of the races that "traditionally" attract mental stat bonuses, and I was getting really confused that "not even" the elves got an IQ bonus.
Note that in many ways, though, my elves aren't traditional. Mostly, they're pretentious. You can get the "traditional" elf by taking all the good parts of all the terrestrial elf subspecies and almost none of the bad ones, yielding this:
Über-Elf
99 points
Attribute Modifiers: DX+1 [20]; IQ+1 [20].
Secondary Characteristic Modifiers: Basic Move+1 [5].
Advantages: Acute Vision 2 [4]; Appearance (Attractive) [4]; Forest Guardian 2 [10]; Magery 0 [5]; Musical Ability 1 [5]; Perfect Balance [15]; Silence 2 [10]; Telescopic Vision 1 [5]; Voice [10].
Perks: Elven Gear [1].
Disadvantages: Sense of Duty (Nature) [-15].
I just didn't want that stereotype in DF. Instead, I made celestials the Übermenschen . . . because really, if any race is going to be superior to all the others, it ought to be the bastard part-gods.

(To get an even 100 points, toss in another perk:

Pretend, Portend . . . I'm The One With The Ears: You can carry on in a pretentious way and everybody will think you're making portentious statements about the fate of the world, universe, etc. No matter how cheesy your dialog gets as a player, the GM will politely ignore it for your character and will never give penalties to social interactions or pull the old "If you said it, your character did!" trick.)
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:19 AM   #5
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I usually go with gnomes being the smartest race... they're basically autistic in most of my games... very smart but socially inept.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:29 AM   #6
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Lots of DF races are "smart" in the sense that they're very, very good and focused at a narrow set of tasks, as represented by an advantage. Dark Ones and Elder-Spawn are savants where creepy, arcane knowledge is concerned. Fauns are ridiculously good musicians. Gnomes are intuitive artificers. And nymphs have an effective +5 to their "social intelligence" score thanks to their racial Charisma. I find this more defining than a generic "I can has smartz?" bonus. Any of these but the nymphs could be fairly described as a tad autistic.
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:51 PM   #7
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I find this more defining than a generic "I can has smartz?" bonus. Any of these but the nymphs could be fairly described as a tad autistic.
I find IQ to be one of the hardest attributes for people to understand in GURPS. Even relative experienced GURPS-players.

I think it is partly because most of the people I know all hails from D&D background where Int=book-smarts.
But I also think the "IQ" tag has a lot to do with it. When people hear IQ they think Intelligence Quotient and the traditional IQ-test that only test mathematic and logic intelligence.


It's difficult to understand, or 'remember', for people that IQ also includes social and creative smartness.


I oftne have to resist the urge to make IQ more expensive in order to get people to buy Talents instead. *mumble mumble* stupid players.
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