The art of Dungeon Fantasy 13: Monsters 1

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Originally Posted by tg_ambro

I can't agree with this, or the more general "DnD is serious business" argument. Even though no one pointed out to me how silly an evil black skinned elf who had a thing for spiders and lived in hell (that came in two flavors, one very christian, the other infinite) riding a giant metal spider golem with a palace on it's back, in an entire plane made out of web was, I still thought it was extremely silly. Much like the rest of the genre. If you ask me, DF is far less silly, it points out the the Shadow Elves do not worship a scantily clad spider-woman. ;-)

In all seriousness, if you want a less silly DF game, ignore the silly parts (Elven dye jobs, Leprechauns, references to real world actor/ninjs) dig out your old copy of the FRCS (not the fourth ed. One, it sucks) and use that setting and its fluff and feel. That's what I did, untill I embraced the more fun aspect of DF.

Well Queen of the Demon Web Pits was not done by Gygax while the Giant and Drow series were. I think that during this time Gygax wanted out of D&D and dumped off the Queen of the Demon Web Pits to another author. I really do not like this module at all and I asked Gygax what his vision of the final module for the series would be and he said that it would have been something where the PCs had to be very careful because if they made the wrong decisions they could free the Elder Eye (an aspect of Tharizdun) when trying to defeat Lolth. The Elder Eye was what set off the adventure in the first place because Eclavdra worshipped it and she organized the giants to attack the surroundings land so as to get enough sacrifices to free the Tharizdun. So some drow were serving Lolth and they fought against the House of Eilservs (the house Eclavdra rules) which serve the Elder Eye. Eclavdra just wanted to gain power so that she could replace Lolth as the queen of the drow. The Elder Eye just granted Eclavdra powers so that it could become free and this god who destroy the entire universe if it became free so it was merely using Eclavdra.