Targeting specific locations, difficulty and fairness issues - Page 7

Green-Neck · 08-25-2010, 08:59 AM

I think adrenaline is a major factor in ones actions after an injury.
If you perceive a threat [like Germans shooting at you at Normandy] adrenaline will keep you acting through fear and pain.

I was attacked by a police officer at an up-to-that-point peaceful protest for approx 16 damage to the skull - and I was able to make rational decisions about how to escape, and make good that escape. As soon as I was safe I passed out. Without adrenaline [ie. if a brick fell on my head at work] I think I would have gone down like a sack of spuds.

I certainly do not have combat reflexes, significant military training or high Will.

Bruno · 08-25-2010, 09:27 AM

Babbling again about ME hit location system, which I really do think is kind of cool - if you can't tell from the overlays, ME uses a percentile system, and thus can afford a much higher resolution on these charts. I'm not sure how much use this is in GURPS - Perhaps set "dead on target" as "Success by X" where X is some positive number and count down from there, instead of using Margin of Failure. I like X = 5 but I'd have to experiment.

Lord Azagthoth · 08-25-2010, 09:27 AM

Adrenaline is a proven pain killer and stimulant.

Daeglan · 08-25-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Babbling again about ME hit location system, which I really do think is kind of cool - if you can't tell from the overlays, ME uses a percentile system, and thus can afford a much higher resolution on these charts. I'm not sure how much use this is in GURPS - Perhaps set "dead on target" as "Success by X" where X is some positive number and count down from there, instead of using Margin of Failure. I like X = 5 but I'd have to experiment.

The way it works in ME is that you place the overlay over the picture. You then roll your gun skill or whatever and that number on the overlay is where you hit. The higher you roll the closer to your intended target. So your hit location and to hit roll are one roll.

Lord Azagthoth · 08-25-2010, 09:54 AM

So in GURPS terms it would mean the larger your margin of success, the closer you hit to the targeted hit location with a margin of success 10 being dead on.

Bruno · 08-25-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Daeglan

The way it works in ME is that you place the overlay over the picture. You then roll your gun skill or whatever and that number on the overlay is where you hit. The higher you roll the closer to your intended target. So your hit location and to hit roll are one roll.

The problem is that you can have 25 different points on the overlay for ME, because you use percentile dice and can miss by 25 points without it being an insane situation. You can't do that in GURPS, there's not enough resolution in the system.

Daeglan · 08-25-2010, 10:08 AM

True.. you would have to redo the overlays with a 3 to like 25 with lower numbers or something along those lines.

DanHoward · 08-25-2010, 05:14 PM

I would just expand an existing GURPS rule. If you miss by 1 point then you hit an adjacent target. If aiming for the torso then roll randomly to see if you hit a limb or the head. If aiming at an extremity then you hit the torso. Miss by 2 or more is a complete miss.

Daeglan · 08-25-2010, 05:32 PM

yeah but i like the ME thinking. if your target is knealing you could easily hit the lower leg or miss entirely...

Beowulfenator · 08-26-2010, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Icelander

having limbs hacked off.

BTW, how do limbs get hacked off? Let's say a 10HP character gets a 8HP cutting wound in the leg. Is that leg cut off or just crippled?

08-25-2010, 08:59 AM	#61
Green-Neck Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fryers Forest Australia	Re: Targeting specific locations, difficulty and fairness issues I think adrenaline is a major factor in ones actions after an injury. If you perceive a threat [like Germans shooting at you at Normandy] adrenaline will keep you acting through fear and pain. I was attacked by a police officer at an up-to-that-point peaceful protest for approx 16 damage to the skull - and I was able to make rational decisions about how to escape, and make good that escape. As soon as I was safe I passed out. Without adrenaline [ie. if a brick fell on my head at work] I think I would have gone down like a sack of spuds. I certainly do not have combat reflexes, significant military training or high Will. __________________ A fine blend of hillbilly and permaculturist.

08-25-2010, 09:27 AM	#62
Bruno Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada	Re: Targeting specific locations, difficulty and fairness issues Babbling again about ME hit location system, which I really do think is kind of cool - if you can't tell from the overlays, ME uses a percentile system, and thus can afford a much higher resolution on these charts. I'm not sure how much use this is in GURPS - Perhaps set "dead on target" as "Success by X" where X is some positive number and count down from there, instead of using Margin of Failure. I like X = 5 but I'd have to experiment. __________________ All about Size Modifier; Unified Hit Location Table A Wiki for my F2F Group A neglected GURPS blog

08-25-2010, 09:27 AM	#63
Lord Azagthoth Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Helmouth, The Netherlands	Re: Targeting specific locations, difficulty and fairness issues Adrenaline is a proven pain killer and stimulant. __________________ May the Force be with us all Dark Lord Azagthoth Star Wars - TRPG

08-25-2010, 09:54 AM	#65
Lord Azagthoth Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Helmouth, The Netherlands	Re: Targeting specific locations, difficulty and fairness issues So in GURPS terms it would mean the larger your margin of success, the closer you hit to the targeted hit location with a margin of success 10 being dead on. __________________ May the Force be with us all Dark Lord Azagthoth Star Wars - TRPG

08-25-2010, 10:08 AM	#67
Daeglan Join Date: Jun 2010	Re: Targeting specific locations, difficulty and fairness issues True.. you would have to redo the overlays with a 3 to like 25 with lower numbers or something along those lines.

08-25-2010, 05:14 PM	#68
DanHoward Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maitland, NSW, Australia	Re: Targeting specific locations, difficulty and fairness issues I would just expand an existing GURPS rule. If you miss by 1 point then you hit an adjacent target. If aiming for the torso then roll randomly to see if you hit a limb or the head. If aiming at an extremity then you hit the torso. Miss by 2 or more is a complete miss.

08-25-2010, 05:32 PM	#69
Daeglan Join Date: Jun 2010	Re: Targeting specific locations, difficulty and fairness issues yeah but i like the ME thinking. if your target is knealing you could easily hit the lower leg or miss entirely...