Power Grappling and 'grappling rolls'

[Icelander]

Originally Posted by Dinadon

In response to the original post I would say it is too seldom to be worth the split. Having looked over everything to do with grappling in Basic and MA, the overlap of both effects seems large. If someone were to take one of the effects as a perk, the utility of the other would then be worth less than if it had been picked first. In other words, the other effect is worth less than a perk once you have one of them.

I suppose this is a fair observation.

But not all Perks are equal. Instead of comparing the effects against each other, the question we have to ask, is a Perk that encompasses only one of these effects worth it when compared to any other Perks that could be taken instead? Is Cunning Grappler (add full skill to ST rolls instead of +1 or +2 for skill) comparable to Ground Guard? Is Power Grappling (replace DX-based rolls with ST-based rolls) comparable to Neck Control?

In my view, the answer to this is yes, these Perks stack up well against other Perks which could benefit a similar character. Before Power Grappling is split, it is indisputably better than other Perks which affect grappling. Even with the split, the two resulting ones are very competative.