Power Grappling and 'grappling rolls'

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by Icelander

Well, no. But assuming that something is off with Arm Locks, specifically, we don't observe this rapid cycle of one failed defence roll leading to inevitable defeat in grappling.

Again, I disagree, based on my grapple/takedown/Pin or Choke example above. Three or four seconds, with the only rate limiting step there the DX level of the to-hit roll and the DX of the defense.

But just getting a normal grapple doesn't mean you've won. The other party has a decent chance of grappling you back, for one thing.

Decent as in 'now that you're grappled you're at a -4 attack penalty to grapple back?' Decent as in 'if the takedown succeeds, you're at an ADDITIONAL' -4 penalty to attack to grapple back due to Posture?

No...once you've been grappled, you're screwed.