Power Grappling and 'grappling rolls'

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by Streacer

It seems I'm failing to get my point across very well. I don't care to see dexterity be more important or strength unimportant. Nor do I take issue with the stylistic portrayal of Strong Man vs Skilled Guy. I am simply asserting that as written, Power Grappling perk is possibly out of proportion to other perks.

I get where you're going. In my experience (and a dedicated BJJ or other grappling artist might have more; we also fight using slightly diff rules) what you're seeing in GURPS is almost not worth a Perk. it's possible for a strong fighter to nearly ignore a weak but quick one.

I think what we might have to do is look for situations where, for example, the DX guy can use his weight as a lever (sitting on a guy's head) or only attack something (Arms, Wrists, or fingers) that cause a "Pin" or a successful grappling result due to pain and physiological limits that ST can't overcome.

But really, many big guys develop, even without training, an instinctive knowledge on how to use their size to best effect. I've seen Brock Lesner fight a few times (only a few), and he obviously has trained that. Woe to he who gets under him; the guy's just too big.

The guy who beat him that I saw (and who later lost in a rematch where he tried to grapple ST- and DX vs ST- and DX...and lost badly) won because he got in a very fast Grapple of Lesner's leg, and hit him with an ankle lock, which also puts a LOT of pressure on the knee. No amount of ST in the world lets you resist that sort of torsion, and Lesner tapped quickly.

I guess my predisposition, and I'd be willing ot be talked out of it, is that one point means "character is aware how to use their size in fights" and is a natural outgrowth of living a life of Big.