Wand of Dowsing

[Gamer234]

There are some questions our group forces me to post for clarification. Here is one of them, though I suspect I know the answer already.

Wand of Dowsing is a Treasure Card that states: Go through the discards and take 1 card that you want and place it in your hand.

Seems obvious to me that both piles of discards should be available for this search, but my friends play that *only* the Treasure pile may be searched.

Ruling pls? :D

[MunchkinMan]

If it were restricted to the Treasure discards, I would hope we'd have made that clearer by now. However, it's not restricted at all, and you can search through either discard pile.

[Kirt]

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

it's not restricted at all, and you can search through either [Door and Treasure] discard pile.

If it is not restricted, potentially it could also allow you to search through any of the three other Discard piles, if they exist in your game:

Cultist Discards
Dungeon Discards
Fairy Dust Discards

as discussed here.

However, it is not clear to me whether the Fairy Dust "out of the game" cards count as discards. Andrew, in the thread listed above, says that a promo item can be used to recover Fairy Dust Cards...but he doesn't mention Dowsing. That may be an oversight, or it may be that the promo item can do something Dowsing can't.

It is also not clear to me what happens when you get a Dungeon card and put it in your hand. What happens to it next?

[Blu]

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest those other three are "special" discards and do not count towards wand of dowsing....that's how we'd play it anyway.

[Andrew Hackard]

You cannot Dowse Dungeon cards because Dungeon cards never go in your hand. That is official.

I would allow Dowsing for Cultists (best. band name. ever.) and haven't absolutely decided about Fairy Dust yet, though I'm inclined to allow it.

[Solelron]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard

You cannot Dowse Dungeon cards because Dungeon cards never go in your hand. That is official.

I would allow Dowsing for Cultists (best. band name. ever.) and haven't absolutely decided about Fairy Dust yet, though I'm inclined to allow it.

I actually had someone dowse for the SGF in an attempt to be ready to stop someone from winning the game.:)

[cccwebs]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard

and haven't absolutely decided about Fairy Dust yet, though I'm inclined to allow it.

While I know it could be your decision officially, I'd have to argue on the side of not allowing the Dowsing Rod to retreive Fairy Dust cards because the rules for Fairy Dust do say "Discarded Fairy Dust cards are not reshuffled.
They’re out of the game." Cultist cards are just kept in a seperate discard pile and aren't removed from the game.

[Andrew Hackard]

Originally Posted by cccwebs

While I know it could be your decision officially, I'd have to argue on the side of not allowing the Dowsing Rod to retreive Fairy Dust cards because the rules for Fairy Dust do say "Discarded Fairy Dust cards are not reshuffled. They’re out of the game."

Yeah, and that's why I'm not 100% decided about it. OTOH, you're burning a pretty good Item to retrieve one card, once . . . so I'm not all THAT conflicted about the prospect.

[friedgold]

should someone be allowed to serch the discards before deciding to play wand of dowsing or should they only get to serch the discards when they play the card

[morleydotes]

I've never allowed it, nor to my knowledge, is it sanctioned by Andrew or Erik.
It slows the game down way to much.

Pat