Are quirks officially counted as disadvantages?

[trooper6]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

Ze's comment does not mention any specific person; why do you insist on taking it as a personal attack against yourself?

Because he and I were in conversation with each other. And the conversation went like this:

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

That to me is a bad quote by you vainly trying to twist a writer's comment into justifying a "disad total" as RAW, instead of the dumb optional rule it actually is.

Disad limits are not RAW, they are an optional rule intended for bad gaming groups with GM vs. Player issues.

Originally Posted by trooper6

Now I think you go too far. I have always used disad limits. But the groups I've GM'd are not now, nor have they every been, "bad gaming groups with GM vs. Player issues."

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

I'll stick to the line that Disad limits are an indication of a bad GM player dynamic.
The GM is either antagonistic, or he's gotten burned by Munchkin players in the past and he's ham handing his way instead of growing some b...sense and actually looking at the characters submitted.

He says, "GM's who do this are bad"
I say, "I do this, I'm not bad."
He says, "I maintain, GMs who do this are bad."

The first statement could easily be taken as not a personal attack--and I didn't take the first statement as a personal attack. But after I placed my person into the discourse by speaking from my personal experience (rather than in broad generalities)--after I said--"I am such a GM," he reiterated the statement, which then now becomes also personally directed towards me.