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Old 07-02-2010, 02:53 AM   #33
Michele
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Default Re: Exmples needed: rise of a Corporate State (Enterprise) from low-tech to TL9

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Originally Posted by Plasmabunny View Post
Some modern day corporations have been known to cross the line from employer to corporate state by overstepping their rights over employees and making demands of employees that violate their rights.

Corporate states could conceivably exist within another larger state if they exercise sufficient control over their employees and tightly control employee communications with those outside the corporation. Though the costs to monitor employees could stifle the corporation's ability to make profits and lead to it's eventual downfall. What it would probably require would be a good internal propaganda machine to convince employees that they should desire to stay within the organization.

Actually, it might be possible to keep employees quiet without good propaganda by convincing them that the law serves them. For instance in some human trafficking organizations, the organization bribes off local law enforcement to return escaped "employees" to the organization.
I disagree, sorry. The description above does not meet the minimal standards to define the thing a state. If they exist within a real state's territory, have to deal with enforcement not of their own, and have no recognition of sovereignty, they may be considered an excessively powerful business organization, or even organized crime, but not a state.


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If a larger state is corrupt enough, a corporate state could actually exercise indirect control over it and function as the hidden defacto government.
That's different. There are people, today, that think that places like Singapore are only nominally parliamentary democracies, but are actually corporate states.
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