New Martial Arts

[Ragitsu]

Originally Posted by aesir23

Inspired largely by Eric the Viking.

Hm...no Overconfidence :-)?

[Cheomesh]

Messer, certainly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHEs2m0IXAk

M.

[macphersonrants]

Originally Posted by Cheomesh

Messer, certainly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHEs2m0IXAk

M.

Very nice. Thanks for the clip.

[Dangerious P. Cats]

Originally Posted by Cheomesh

Messer, certainly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHEs2m0IXAk

M.

Looks like broadsword, judo, some disarm (judo), counter attack (braodsword), armed grapple (broadsword) and arm lock (judo) and the use of defencive grip to close. Probably also worth adding close combat (braodsword) for good measure. Also they did another video on the subject http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p7anaiPo7o. I'm really tempted to take up messer now.

[DeathFromAbove]

Medieval European Martial Arts styles are as complex and complete like the oriental one.

Armed and unarmed ones.
In and out of armor.

They are overlooked often by RPG books.

Very good example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC5FIyfI8TA

[Cheomesh]

They actually have four up, cats, though the one you linked is a correction to their first one. I've trained messer with them in real life; I've booked them to do hands on seminars on four or so occasions now. It's a good art. Their video shot in a garage was done on a cold February night, and they were really trying to compete for space with the camera, so it looks kind of constrained. Gladiatores (the guys who did the video linked above this response) also did one on messer, with the weapon showing up in messer and buckler within another video.

M.

[macphersonrants]

Originally Posted by DeathFromAbove

Medieval European Martial Arts styles are as complex and complete like the oriental one.

Armed and unarmed ones.
In and out of armor.

They are overlooked often by RPG books.

Very good example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC5FIyfI8TA

GURPS does a better with historical European styles than most games in my view.

With the messer clip, I notice the style seems pretty similar to dussack techniques I've trained in. Perhaps you could get some additional ideas from some of the dussack sources like Joachim Meyer.

[Polydamas]

Originally Posted by Cheomesh

Messer, certainly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHEs2m0IXAk

M.

I think its supposed to be represented with Shortsword Fighting from MA. Though some messers creep into Broadsword or Longsword length.

[macphersonrants]

Originally Posted by Polydamas

I think its supposed to be represented with Shortsword Fighting from MA. Though some messers creep into Broadsword or Longsword length.

I wondered about that myself, but I haven't had a chance to compare the style in the book to the clip

[Cheomesh]

Mac, you can train messer using the dussak; that appears to be what the dussack was all about.
M.