Kyujutsu and Technique Adaptation (Targeted Attack)

[Mercutio Montecchi]

Hi, I have a question about Technique Adaptation (Targeted Attack), from the Kyujutsu style.

Kyujutsu has Targeted Attack (Bow Shot/Face), and the Technique Adaptation (Targeted Attack) perk.
If you get the perk, can you get any Targeted Attack for any weapon, or are you limited to Targeted Attack (Any Weapon, Used in Any Way, Any Technique/Face)?

[Peter V. Dell'Orto]

Originally Posted by Mercutio Montecchi

Hi, I have a question about Technique Adaptation (Targeted Attack), from the Kyujutsu style.

Kyujutsu has Targeted Attack (Bow Shot/Face), and the Technique Adaptation (Targeted Attack) perk.
If you get the perk, can you get any Targeted Attack for any weapon, or are you limited to Targeted Attack (Any Weapon, Used in Any Way, Any Technique/Face)?

It's meant to allow you to buy Targeted Attack (Bow Shot/location) for whatever location you want, on the idea that some samurai will learn to target other locations than the face.

[johndallman]

Originally Posted by Toadkiller_Dog

It's meant to allow you to buy Targeted Attack (Bow Shot/location) for whatever location you want, on the idea that some samurai will learn to target other locations than the face.

So, just to check, this is a perk about getting different training from the standard for the school that's teaching you?

[Peter V. Dell'Orto]

Originally Posted by johndallman

So, just to check, this is a perk about getting different training from the standard for the school that's teaching you?

More like a perk allowing you to add additional Targeted Attacks over and above the one you learn as part of the style.

[Mercutio Montecchi]

Originally Posted by Toadkiller_Dog

More like a perk allowing you to add additional Targeted Attacks over and above the one you learn as part of the style.

I thought Technique Adaptation was meant for you to learn a technique your style taught your for one weapon for any weapon you might want to use it with.
Like Technique Adaptation (Disarm) allows you to learn Disarm for any weapon.
The idea that Technique Adaptation (Targeted Attack) is meant for you to take TA for any location instead of any weapon seems to work in the opposite way compared to Technique Adaptation for any other technique.

[Refplace]

From my reading of both the perk and the style just now I would say its use is to allow you to train any weapon for Targeted Attack.
The style is with the bow but teaches you to target the face as that is usually unarmored.
The perk allows you to adapt that aiming training to other weapons if you spend enough time at it. So you have to put at least 1 point in another weapon skill and then work on the technique for it.
However it is not an uber tactic and you would have to buy each TA technique for location and weapon that you wanted.

[wellspring]

Originally Posted by Mercutio Montecchi

I thought Technique Adaptation was meant for you to learn a technique your style taught your for one weapon for any weapon you might want to use it with.
Like Technique Adaptation (Disarm) allows you to learn Disarm for any weapon.
The idea that Technique Adaptation (Targeted Attack) is meant for you to take TA for any location instead of any weapon seems to work in the opposite way compared to Technique Adaptation for any other technique.

I agree that it's sometimes difficult in MA to figure out exactly how a particularly flexible perk is supposed to be applied for a given style. Granted the GM gets to make the call, but it's useful to know what the authors intended, and sometimes the entries make that a little opaque (especially since some of us don't have the martial arts knowledge to make the calls more obvious).

How, specifically, are you trying to apply this?

If you're a player looking to talk your GM into letting you get "TA/Flail" using this perk, then that's one thing.

If you're a GM, and you're thinking, "Hey, the characters in my cyberpunk yakuza pseudo-samurai campaign could learn this using guns and motorcycles instead of bows and horses..." then it's something entirely different. Though in that case, I would just create a new (parallel) style.

If we're in grey areas, like samurai with muskets trying to adapt their techniques to new weapons, then you (or your GM, if you're the player) have some decisions to make about what's possible/realistic. Do you get this by creating a new style, or does the curriculum of an existing style enable it? I think that's what you're really asking here.