Mixing Low-Tech armour rules with Ultra-Tech materials?

[Sam Baughn]

Has anyone written up the various armour materials from Ultra-Tech (or High-Tech for that matter) in the format used in Low-Tech yet? Or worked out a formula to convert them at least?

[lexington]

Originally Posted by Perfect Organism

Has anyone written up the various armour materials from Ultra-Tech (or High-Tech for that matter) in the format used in Low-Tech yet? Or worked out a formula to convert them at least?

Ultra-Tech has a great tailoring system in it, what elements of the Low-Tech system are you looking for?

[Jonas]

Originally Posted by lexington

Ultra-Tech has a great tailoring system in it, what elements of the Low-Tech system are you looking for?

I think he means using Low Techs armor table with the materials used in Ultra Techs armors.

[Tema69]

While I don't know what OP is asking about, I was wondering about the Armour Quality rules of LT, and how to adapt them to UT? Could I get my Combat Hardsuit tailored? Or my Commando Battlesuit? Because that'd be awesome :P

[Kalzazz]

Hmmmm, Low Tech armor weighs Torso x3.05

Ultra Tech weighs Torso x4

Any idea the difference?

[Tyneras]

Isn't the definition of what the "Torso" is different in LT and UT? I think some locations changed in LT, but no books with me at the moment.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Kalzazz

Hmmmm, Low Tech armor weighs Torso x3.05

Ultra Tech weighs Torso x4

Any idea the difference?

What low tech calls 'torso' armor ultra-tech calls 'torso + groin' armor. Using comparable weights (20 lb full suit in UT, 7 lb torso armor in LT)
Skull: UT says 1 lb, LT says 1.4 lb
Face: UT says 1 lb, LT says 0.7 lb
Head: UT says 2 lb, LT says 2.1 lb
Neck: UT says 0.5 lb, LT says 0.35 lb
Torso: UT says 7 lb, LT says 7 lb
Chest: UT says 5 lb, LT says 5.25 lb
Abdomen (Groin in UT): UT says 2 lb, LT says 1.75 lb
Arms: UT says 2.5 lb, LT says 3.5 lb
Hands: UT says 1 lb, LT says 0.7 lb
Legs: UT says 5 lb, LT says 7 lb
Feet: UT says 2 lb, LT says 0.7 lb
Total: UT says 20 lb, LT says 21.35 lb.

Much of this is just rounding, though UT weights are notably low for many armor types (a TL 9 reflex vest has an areal density of 0.4 lb/sf, which is less than half the weight of a TL 8 level IIIa vest that provides similar protection).

[jacobmuller]

Originally Posted by Kalzazz

Hmmmm, Low Tech armor weighs Torso x3.05
Ultra Tech weighs Torso x4
Any idea the difference?

UT is more like 2.86... Torso plus Groin vs 1.
And LT isn't 3.05, it's 2.85. The Hands/Legs 10% is only for separate hands/legs.
As I fell asleep I realised the Arm and Leg breakdowns make more sense as Shoulder 10/ Upper arm 10/ elbow 5/ forearm 15/ hand 10 and thigh 45/ knee 5/ shin 40/ foot 10.

But re OP: nope, I ain't done that yet. It might be nice to do it and get a (is it) Dan Howard(?)-ish UT booklet of typical suits.

[jacobmuller]

Originally Posted by Perfect Organism

Has anyone written up the various armour materials from Ultra-Tech (or High-Tech for that matter) in the format used in Low-Tech yet? Or worked out a formula to convert them at least?

Howzat

TL	Type		$	Wgt	Notes
9-11	Ballistic	420	2.8	p172
9-10	Ablative	420	2.8	p173
9	Reflective	140	0.9	p173
11^	Retro Reflec	1,400	0.9	p173
10	Bioplas		870	1.5	p174
12	Energy cloth	965	2.9	p175

I've left out the actual notes and DR. It's all in UT at the pages given above.
Don time should be no more than 15, as for a chain vest, and should probably be less, nothing to tie or maybe just a snap-stud/ zipper?