Fencing and Swords

[Godogma]

The Schiavona (a broadsword with a basket hilt much like those shown on many types of rapiers) was a broadsword used in Italian fencing - I'm wondering how to work it into a character and how best to represent fencing with the weapon. I believe there's a perk to allow one to fence with other weapons than those with the fencing type (although I can't recall where) but as I'm interested in using one in an upcoming game I was wondering how you'd suggest working it best in game terms - or the simplest way :P

[Azinctus]

The Perk is Weapon Adaptation. Take Weapon Adaptation (broadsword for rapier) [1]. And you're done.

There was some discussion of this subject in this thread.

[Dangerious P. Cats]

I recently ordered a Schiavona made, they are beautiful swords and the basket design is one of the strongest I've encountered. Why the design didn't really spread beyond the mediteranian is beyond me.

In terms of preformance they are the same as a backsword and would be wielded with the same skill (broadsword I believe). You could make use it with sabre skill and weapon adaptation, which I think gives a fencing parry when you use it.

[Godogma]

From what I understand they actually spread from Serbia (the area known as Dalmatia) as some areas of the country accepted Venetian Republic. The doge's guard (who were Slavs known as the Schiavoni) is actually where the name for the sword came from...

According to the wikipidia it seems similar hilts were also found in Hungary and Greece so it probably spread a lot further than you think and is merely most famous in Italy.

I've always wanted a good schiavona, cold steel made an excellent replica which I've actually held in my hands - it had excellent balance and what I'd consider a very good weight and felt very useful. Unfortunately they no longer make it and I didn't have the money to purchase one that day.

[Dangerious P. Cats]

Originally Posted by Godogma

From what I understand they actually spread from Serbia (the area known as Dalmatia) as some areas of the country accepted Venetian Republic. The doge's guard (who were Slavs known as the Schiavoni) is actually where the name for the sword came from...

According to the wikipidia it seems similar hilts were also found in Hungary and Greece so it probably spread a lot further than you think and is merely most famous in Italy.

I've always wanted a good schiavona, cold steel made an excellent replica which I've actually held in my hands - it had excellent balance and what I'd consider a very good weight and felt very useful. Unfortunately they no longer make it and I didn't have the money to purchase one that day.

Darkwood armoury make some loverly Schiavonas if that helps.

[DreadPirateLynx]

Originally Posted by Dangerious P. Cats

Darkwood armoury make some loverly Schiavonas if that helps.

Interesting site. I can't find anything on the site that says whether their products are usable weapons or simply replicas though. There's no way I could justify spending over $600 on a weapon I couldn't use in the upcoming zombie apocalypse...

[Dangerious P. Cats]

Originally Posted by DreadPirateLynx

Interesting site. I can't find anything on the site that says whether their products are usable weapons or simply replicas though. There's no way I could justify spending over $600 on a weapon I couldn't use in the upcoming zombie apocalypse...

They're fencing swords. Sturdy yet agile, but blunt since you don't want to hurt your training partners (after all you'll need them when the zombies come ;)). You could enquire if they do cutting swords but I don't think they do.

[RyanW]

Originally Posted by DreadPirateLynx

Interesting site. I can't find anything on the site that says whether their products are usable weapons or simply replicas though. There's no way I could justify spending over $600 on a weapon I couldn't use in the upcoming zombie apocalypse...

I haven't seen anything on their schiavona specifically, but myArmoury.com reviews show a generally positive opinion of Darkwood's swords as functional for historical fencing.