Can You Cheat an Item During Combat?

[Griffen25]

Q: Whilst in combat with a monster, can you play a cheat card from your hand with another item from your hand and gain the bonuses during that combat?

I ask this question, because it arose last night whilst playing with my friends, I believed strongly that you couldn't play items (ie a weapon) whilst in combat regardless if you have a cheat card or not. However I was over-ruled by the owner of the game.

I had a quick squizz over the FAQ regarding playing cards in combat and asside from the obvious rule of not being able to play items or swap items in combat; I could not find this example mentioned specifically or remotely.

Thanks!.

[MunchkinMan]

Because you can't play a new Item during combat, it doesn't matter if it's with Cheat! or not, so the very specific case you ask about isn't changed by the general rule. The only Items you can play during combat are one-shot Items that you are going to use right then.

You also can't play Cheat! on an Item you weren't using but had in play to start using it during combat.

[MIB2826]

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

Because you can't play a new Item during combat, it doesn't matter if it's with Cheat! or not, so the very specific case you ask about isn't changed by the general rule. The only Items you can play during combat are one-shot Items that you are going to use right then.

You also can't play Cheat! on an Item you weren't using but had in play to start using it during combat.

Advocate for the Devil here:

Imagine that you started combat as an Elf with an Elf-Only Item.
During that combat you get cursed to lose your race, which means you can no longer use you Item.
Can you, in this case, play Cheat on the Item?
You didn't play it during combat and you did use it at the start of it.

[Genpin]

Nope, if you lose your race, you MUST rearrange your items in a legal layout (if you lost a dwarf, you have to discard extra big items) This is not M:the Marketing :)

[Andrew Hackard]

The item was already legally in play, so I would say that yes, you could Cheat! the item.

[Genpin]

but resolving the curse does not involve making legal all your items in play? if you lose your elf race, you MUST "tap" the illegal items... this seems like a counter in reaction of a curse :S

[MunchkinMan]

Originally Posted by Genpin

but resolving the curse does not involve making legal all your items in play? if you lose your elf race, you MUST "tap" the illegal items... this seems like a counter in reaction of a curse :S

Firstly: You don't "tap" anything in Munchkin. That is not a term we use. Secondly: Show where it's stated, in the FAQ or the rules, that you're allowed to change what equipment you are using. You may not be able to get a bonus from it, but just because you were an Elf and now you're not, it doesn't mean you get to set aside all your Elf-only Items.