Itching Powder Question

[Shaun D]

I know that this card states that it works on armor and clothing, i would like to know what this covers. Is clothing what your wearing i.e. your armor, foot gear, headgear and hand weapons? Seems like a silly question but just curious as to what the card is able to target.

[MunchkinMan]

The card specifically says that "weapons" and "shields" aren't considered clothing or Armor, so unless your Hand Item is a glove, it's not likely to count. You'll have to use common sense here and consider whether the Item is clothing: Most Armor, Headgear and Footgear would be considered clothing, but since Armor is already explicitly listed, you needn't worry about whether that counts, since we already know; Pantyhose of Giant Strength and Spiky Knees are definitely Items that would be considered clothing. I've never gotten a satisfactory answer on this, believe it or not, so Headgear and Footgear might not count. Andrew might have to poke someone about that.

[Shaun D]

First off thank you for the quick reply.

Secondly, this debate really all started because the itching powder was played on the footgear bear feat, which also has its own powers of saying "but i have bear feat" whenever a footgear is targeted. We were not sure if the foot gear are first of all, able to be targeted by the itching powder. Then if so, if it was targeting the footgear of bear feet could the person wearing the bear feet not get affected by something targeting them.

My argument is that it states armor or clothing on the card. If it also meant to target headgear or footgear wouldn't the card state so ,or are headgear and footgear considered clothing?

[MunchkinMan]

First off, the Bear Feet can only be saved against something that specifically targets Footgear. Itching Powder is far more general than Curse! Lose the Footgear You Are Wearing or the Bad Stuff of Drooling Slime. So, if Itching Powder can be used to target Footgear, then I'd say you can't get away with trying to protect Bear Feet with the "But, I have Bear Feet" rule.

[AMOE]

While I understand that it doesn't specifically target footgear, when someone uses the Itching Powder on someone else, S/HE gets to choose what to target, no?

If it is the case, then saying "you lose your shoes" would make it target the victim's footgear, no?

Again, if this is the case, since it now targets footgear, saying "But I have bear feet" SHOULD save them, no?


If I am mistaken about the first hypotesis and that the victim gets to choose what to lose, then ignore the following ones. However, if the victim only happened to have the bear feet on at that time, wouldn't it automatically target their footgear, thus, leading into the possibility of protecting them by saying that phrase?


Note that I do not wish to argue with your ruling on the question, it's more that I'm curious to see if it is possible to do that.

[RevBob]

Originally Posted by AMOE

While I understand that it doesn't specifically target footgear, when someone uses the Itching Powder on someone else, S/HE gets to choose what to target, no?

If it is the case, then saying "you lose your shoes" would make it target the victim's footgear, no?

You are confusing the mechanism of targeting an item in general (which includes footgear as an option) with the mechanism of targeting footgear specifically. Bear Feet is safe from the latter, not the former.

Or, if this is clearer - in your Itching Powder example, the Bear Feet is affected because footgear is not targeted by Itching Powder. Targets are what the card aims for, and Bear Feet specifically counteracts cards that explicitly aim for footgear. Itching Powder, Lose One Small Item...neither of those qualifies.

[Gamer234]

While seeking clarification regarding whether the Itching Powder can target footgear/headgear, I came across these two posts. They aren't contradictory, but the first is a definitive yes, whereas the more recent post says "might not." That being said, could we possibly get an official ruling on this?

Case for Not allowing footgear/headgear to be targeted: Clothing is clothing; hats and shoes are accesories. People always refer to the "shoes they bought to go along with the new outfit, blah blah."

However, if 'clothing' simply means anything worn (other than weapons and shields since the card specifies that), then the Itching Powder would be allowed to target footgear headgear.

11-27-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

Yes, and other Items which would clearly be worn, like Pantyhose of Giant Strength and Kneepads of Allure.

05-13-2010

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

You'll have to use common sense here and consider whether the Item is clothing: Most Armor, Headgear and Footgear would be considered clothing, but since Armor is already explicitly listed, you needn't worry about whether that counts, since we already know; Pantyhose of Giant Strength and Spiky Knees are definitely Items that would be considered clothing. I've never gotten a satisfactory answer on this, believe it or not, so Headgear and Footgear might not count. Andrew might have to poke someone about that.

[MunchkinMan]

I feel like we got an answer, too, and now I can't find it. . . :-(

[Andrew Hackard]

Official answer: Anything you have to PUT ON, as opposed to simply PICK UP, is Clothing.

[Shaun D]

Thank you Andrew for a final verification on this, answers a dispute my group and I have been having for a while now. Seems trivial I know, but as with most munchkin games disputes occur, and it seems best to get a verification on what the ruling is. Thanks once again and may all your days be munchkinly.