[SPACE] Star Generation

[Noven]

I have been using the system generation rules in the space book, and decided to let you guys see the labors of my work. I started with the nearest starts to Sol and worked my way out, and currently have finished Barnard's Star. I claim no complete astronomical accuracy to what the real systems are as for stats, and have taken a bit of "artistic privilege" with a few of the systems. Basically what I did was went to wikipedia and found out roughly what type of star it was, and put together some stats using the rules in Space. It is pretty painful to stat out each star, planet and moon, but having nothing else better to do at work, its time well spent. My wiki is a work in progress, and I have basically no limit to how many systems I plan on statting out, but for now, I am going to work on the ones that are listed on my wiki and then work out from there. Anyhoo, enjoy (and feedback is ok too).

http://wiki.noventhehero.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

[Captain Joy]

Originally Posted by Noven

http://wiki.noventhehero.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Solid.

It would be nice if the splash page included what the stellar types are (E.g. G2V) and if there is a garden world present, instead of just the names for the different stars.

[Noven]

Originally Posted by Captain Joy

Solid.

It would be nice if the splash page included what the stellar types are (E.g. G2V) and if there is a garden world present, instead of just the names for the different stars.

You tell me an easy way to do that and I'll impliment that. Right now, I just have my wiki-editing skills to go on and thats it. :) Right now I imagine that it is quite easy to navigate, since you click on the star, and it has the planets listed out and what type of planet each one is. If the planet hasnt been statted out yet, then there is no data (but there will be eventually).

Originally Posted by t@nya

That's too bad. Sounds like it would make a good e23 book, maybe along with pages on pulsars, black holes and other "dead" stars. I even have a name for it: GURPS Space: Shadow of Dead Stars. :)

I would love to see more GURPS Space books to expand on the Space series beyond Spaceships.

[Captain Joy]

Originally Posted by Noven

You tell me an easy way to do that and I'll impliment that.

I didn't mean anything fancy; just add text. E.g.

Gamma Pavonis (30.1 light years from Earth)

would become

Gamma Pavonis (F6V, 30.1 light years from Earth, Garden)

Originally Posted by Noven

Right now I imagine that it is quite easy to navigate, since you click on the star, and it has the planets listed out and what type of planet each one is.

That click is a deal breaker for people that might want to use your sight to hand pick habitable systems. It's not just one extra click, it's a click and a scroll down, followed by a reasonable effort so as not to accidentally miss the possible Garden Planet in a list--repeat several times until you get lucky and find one with a garden world.

Don't get me wrong: your site is excellent. If you don't care about making it useful to people who just want to hand pick garden world systems--or at least find them at a glance--then I wouldn't worry about it. But right now you have only nine stars; if you think you might want to add this information to the "Star Systems" listing, I'd add it now rather than later.

[Noven]

Originally Posted by Captain Joy

I didn't mean anything fancy; just add text. E.g.

Gamma Pavonis (30.1 light years from Earth)

would become

Gamma Pavonis (F6V, 30.1 light years from Earth, Garden)

That click is a deal breaker for people that might want to use your sight to hand pick habitable systems. It's not just one extra click, it's a click and a scroll down, followed by a reasonable effort so as not to accidentally miss the possible Garden Planet in a list--repeat several times until you get lucky and find one with a garden world.

Don't get me wrong: your site is excellent. If you don't care about making it useful to people who just want to hand pick garden world systems--or at least find them at a glance--then I wouldn't worry about it. But right now you have only nine stars; if you think you might want to add this information to the "Star Systems" listing, I'd add it now rather than later.

I'm not quite sure I want to single out systems with garden planets generated, since I mean, on Gamma Pavonis itself, there are 8 other planets there with different uses. I mean, some people will see Alpha Centauri B and think nothing about the planets, but about the asteroid belts that have better than average mineral wealth.

[Pomphis]

Then mention that too. The long term problem is that if you roll up systems you end up with lots of M stars with nothing interesting orbiting them. If you then can see on a (by then) much longer list of stars which 10% are worth clicking at that will be a significant help.

[Captain Joy]

Originally Posted by Noven

I'm not quite sure I want to single out systems with garden planets generated, since I mean, on Gamma Pavonis itself, there are 8 other planets there with different uses. I mean, some people will see Alpha Centauri B and think nothing about the planets, but about the asteroid belts that have better than average mineral wealth.

A significant number of GM's and players want to know if a star system has a habitable planet--any other interests are frequently a distant second. (This is why GURPS Space has rules to generate planets and star systems that assume at the outset that a garden planet is present.) I assume, since you're making your significant efforts available to all, you'll want to make it as user friendly as reasonably possible. I assure you that most people would like to know at a glance which of those star systems have garden planets. For some people, it will be more important than its distance from Earth. E.g. some people will just drop them into a campaign and won't care what real star it's based on.

Is your intention is that people "purchase the entire album" and not just "buy a few singles"?

[pra]

Originally Posted by Captain Joy

Solid.

It would be nice if the splash page included what the stellar types are (E.g. G2V) and if there is a garden world present, instead of just the names for the different stars.

Is this:

http://wiki.noventhehero.com/index.p...h=garden&go=Go

adequate?

[Captain Joy]

Originally Posted by pra

Is this: http://wiki.noventhehero.com/index.p...h=garden&go=Go adequate?

Hey, that's perfect!

If I might make a further suggestion. If I get to a planet via a link following a search, I can see all the planet info just fine. However, there is no link from that planet page that takes me to the planet's parent-star-system page.

[diamondb]

Noven,

I love the wiki, particularly since I'm in the prep stages of a TL 9 Space game and I was not looking forward to stating out nearby systems.

As for the detail, sure putting info on the main page would be nice, but it seems to me you are already handing a TON of information to any and all who want to use it. Folks should say thanks for the hard work, leave requested feedback and then not dwell on it if said feedback is declined. I say anyone out there too lazy to click and scroll a few times to cherry pick info, isn't that determined to find the desired information.