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Old 04-17-2008, 12:38 PM   #1
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Default [MA] Springing Attack, what is it exactly?

As the title. What exactly IS a springing attack? Is it a jump attack of some kind? If I combine Spinning Attack and Uppercut with Springing Attack, does it become a Shoryuken of sorts?

I understand the mechanics of the attack. Wait a turn crouching and get the all-out attack (strong) bonus at no defensive penalties or FP costs, but what does it do visually to the attack?
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:48 PM   #2
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You crouch down low like a cat and then leap upward into your foe. It's basically a semi-cinematic way to say, "I get +2 damage for the same reason why Stamp Kick gets +2 damage vs. a punch: I'm directing my full body weight and leg strength onto the target in a straight line. Except that I'm doing it in the opposite direction from gravity, and it's my weapon or hand that's connecting." Or maybe you leap straight up and then crash down on your foe. Either way, the extra second is a bit like the extra time needed to make a full-powered jump in combat (p. B352).
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:36 PM   #3
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Or maybe you leap straight up and then crash down on your foe. Either way, the extra second is a bit like the extra time needed to make a full-powered jump in combat (p. B352).
Ah ha! That's exactly what I was looking for!

I'm trying to simulate an attack like one of many attacks Seigfried (of soul calibur fame) performs or Samurai Jack's Horse-Cutter Technique, an attack that slashes down on an opponent from above. But there's just too many different ways to do it with Martial Arts. I wanted this to have some sort of preperation to it too and Springing Attack seems to handle all of that well.

How does Springing Attack mesh with Super Jump and Flying Leap?
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:30 PM   #4
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How does Springing Attack mesh with Super Jump and Flying Leap?
And can it be combined with Attack From Above if one jumps instead of a regular Step (using SJ/FL)?
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:43 PM   #5
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You crouch down low like a cat and then leap upward into your foe.
Or leap forward, or just an attack that explodes from a deep (usually meaning low) stance - notice we gave it to Sumo, where it makes sense for cinematic fighters. That full, low squat before the start of a match (the tachi-ai) is a good "Springing Attack." It's also on Iajutsu, for samurai who explode out of their low stance to fast draw and cut. It's on Capoeira for jumping attacks. It's on Hsing I Chuan for its deep stances that are said to be so powerful.

So yeah, it can be a leap upward, but it's not restricted to that. It's a deep stance...think situations where the attack crounches down or squats deep (like, hamstrings to calves) briefly and then explodes outwards.

You could combine it with Attack From Above*, but I'm not sure I'd allow someone to use Flying Leap and call this a Springing Attack. It seems like two ways around the same thing. Either you're leaping up and coming down on them using Flying Leap, or you're using a Springing Attack to explode into them from a deep stance. I'd certainly allow Power Blow and Springing Attack together, they seem a very natural combination! This is my judgment, however, your judgment may vary.

* "You may combine Springing Attack with another striking technique. See Using Techniques Together (p. 64) to find effective skill level." That sounds like they can be combined if you can create the situation.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:33 PM   #6
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Could Springing Attack be used for the "Super Man Punch" of Ultimate Fighting fame?
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:39 PM   #7
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If by Super Man Punch you mean Superman's reeling back tank crushing punch of doom, it's probably a combination of Telegraphic Attack, Commited Attack (Strong), All-Out Attack (Strong), and/or Mighty Blow, but I can definitly see using the Springing Attack assuming I've got a good enough grasp of what it is.


Speaking of which...Could I make an All-Out (Strong) Springing Attack, spending an FP for Mighty Blows? A whopping +3 per die of damage that.
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Speaking of which...Could I make an All-Out (Strong) Springing Attack, spending an FP for Mighty Blows? A whopping +3 per die of damage that.
By default, no, but check the designer's notes, which I don't remember (but there's a Perk in them . . .).
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If by Super Man Punch you mean Superman's reeling back tank crushing punch of doom, it's probably a combination of Telegraphic Attack, Commited Attack (Strong), All-Out Attack (Strong), and/or Mighty Blow, but I can definitly see using the Springing Attack assuming I've got a good enough grasp of what it is.


Speaking of which...Could I make an All-Out (Strong) Springing Attack, spending an FP for Mighty Blows? A whopping +3 per die of damage that.
Not Superman, I'm talking about in the UFC when a guy sort of hops and throwes a cross punch while he's in the air. Or even a leaping backfist like you see in point karate where a guy performs a lunge/leap and trowes a back fist? Would those be springing attacks?
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You crouch down low like a cat and then leap upward into your foe.
Something like this?
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