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Old 01-20-2007, 05:25 PM   #1
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Default How deadly is Cyanide in Gurps 4e?

Hi,

I almost feel bad posting yet another thread, but I couldn't find a good answer on making a search. Do I read things right that your run-of-the-mill assassin would always have to use a double dosage of cyanide to make sure he kills his victim? Because the 4d of the normal dosage are hardly a guaranteed kill for normal people, much less for adventurers.
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Old 01-20-2007, 07:23 PM   #2
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Hi,

I almost feel bad posting yet another thread, but I couldn't find a good answer on making a search. Do I read things right that your run-of-the-mill assassin would always have to use a double dosage of cyanide to make sure he kills his victim? Because the 4d of the normal dosage are hardly a guaranteed kill for normal people, much less for adventurers.
As far as I can tell, cyanide is 4d per dose. And, you're right, that isn't enough to kill the average person. On the other hand, this way, someone might get an accidental dose of the stuff (they use it in rat poison, I think) and not have it be an automatic "you're dead, come up with a new character."

For gas, it doesn't matter, since you're breathing the stuff and you'll take a fatal dose very quickly.

Just make sure your assassin uses two or three doses per attack.

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Old 01-20-2007, 08:22 PM   #3
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Default Re: How deadly is Cyanide in Gurps 4e?

Since not everyone exposed to cyanide die, having the 'single serving size' less than automatically lethal makes perfect sense.

Cyanide was never used as rat poison. People would prefer to use toxins that are more dangerous for the pest than some dumb human accidentally ingesting it.
Modern poisons use blood thinners that are oderless and tasteless requiring multiple doses works.
They used to use arsenic as a toxic amount normally causes violent vomitting in humans. But as rodents can't purge...


Edit to say oops. The next poster called me on my misinformation.

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Old 01-20-2007, 08:54 PM   #4
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...Cyanide was never used as rat poison. People would prefer to use toxins that are more dangerous for the pest than some dumb human accidentally ingesting it.
Modern poisons use blood thinners that are oderless and tasteless requiring multiple doses works.
They used to use arsenic as a toxic amount normally causes violent vomitting in humans. But as rodents can't purge...
A quick Google found this :
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Cyanides are used as insecticides for fumigating ships. In the past cyanide salts have also been used as rat poison.

Whilst Wikipedia isn't always right , I have heard of cyanide as a rat poison in the past myself and the author/s of this Wiki entry obviously have too .
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Old 01-20-2007, 10:24 PM   #5
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Default Re: How deadly is Cyanide in Gurps 4e?

Thanks for the answers, that's exactly what I was thinking.

It IS pretty cheap, isn't it? I'd like to fact-check that as well, but I couldn't find any cyanide capsules on amazon... ;)
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Old 01-21-2007, 12:07 AM   #6
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Thanks for the answers, that's exactly what I was thinking.

It IS pretty cheap, isn't it? I'd like to fact-check that as well, but I couldn't find any cyanide capsules on amazon... ;)
No, but you will probably be receiving a visit from Homeland Security and/or the local police fairly soon... :)

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