Where does the rider land when they get pulled from a mount?

[Jurld]

I apologize if this has been asked/answered. I could not find the answer in the ITL Legacy Edition mounted combat rules.

We finally decided it would be "prone in the hex where the rider was sitting on their mount."

The other alternative we imagined was that it would seem more realistic if they fall to the ground beside the mount, but then we got in another "discussion" about what to do when that hex is occupied. Both figures fall to ground? The person who was pulling the rider is able to shift/step aside?

If there are RAW somewhere that we missed that covers this, please point it out, if not how do you play it in your group?

[phiwum]

Haven't yet had to worry about it, but here's how I'd do it.

Pick one person who is trying to pull the rider off. You may do this randomly or choose the strongest, whatever. The rider lands in the hex where that person is standing. That person shifts one hex away from the horse. If there's nowhere for him to shift to, you could decide that he falls prone in the same hex as the rider.

[hcobb]

Why would they fall into a different hex?

[ak_aramis]

Originally Posted by hcobb

Why would they fall into a different hex?

pushed off, pulled off - you're being moved sideways and will arc down.

Watching some modern jousters, when they fall, it's between 3 to 6 feet from the horse's path where they land; that's good odds of not being in the hex where one came off.

I would say phiwum's method is a decent one, so long as the unhorsing is being done by grapple, battleax, warhammer, sickle, one-handed hook, or other such "grabby" non-polearms.

By long melee weapons, esp. hooks and axes, you can pull from further than 1 hex. Weapons with blunt heads or spikes on a poleaxe can be used to push; start at reach and force them one away while stepping one in.

Needless to say, lances should give a chance to be away from the horse's path on landing...

[hcobb]

Just resolve it as a "forced retreat" off their high horse then.

[phiwum]

Originally Posted by hcobb

Just resolve it as a "forced retreat" off their high horse then.

Why? Why should the rider get to choose which hex he lands in? He's being pulled off, so he's not really in control of the situation.

[phiwum]

Originally Posted by hcobb

Why would they fall into a different hex?

Because the alternative is to land prone under the horse, but this sounds rather more like being pulled through the horse rather than off.

And I don't think that pulling a man off a horse ought to lead to an immediate (if unintentional) trampling.