Disbelieving what you cannot see

[Drakenbow]

Does a character who wishes to disbelieve need to see the target of the disbelief? Say a wizard either Summons Myrmidon or creates an Illusion of a myrmadon on the turn after creation uses movement to place the creation behind the enemy and the enemy can't turn to face it. Can the enemy still make an attempt to disbelieve?

[Shostak]

My approach is to allow disbelieving an illusion that is not currently in the field of vision so long as it had already been seen by that figure. For example, Volto the wizard sees a myrmidon appear on turn 1. On turn 2, the myrmidon steps into a Shadow hex. Volto can disbelieve the illusion on turn 2, but won't know the result of his action. However, if the illusion was created in the Shadow, Volto would not know that it was there and so could not disbelieve it.

[TippetsTX]

I'm on the other side... disbelieve is described as a spell that anyone can use so I require the 'disbeliever' to focus on the target of that action. If the illusion is out-of-sight, that focus is broken.

[Shostak]

Originally Posted by TippetsTX

I'm on the other side... disbelieve is described as a spell that anyone can use so I require the 'disbeliever' to focus on the target of that action. If the illusion is out-of-sight, that focus is broken.

Fair enough. Special spells, though, which I'd argue Disbelieve must be, sometimes have large areas of effect and that affect things the wizard might not even know are there. One could think of Disbelieve as a low-power version of Dispel Illusions, which does not require visual contact.

[TippetsTX]

Originally Posted by Shostak

One could think of Disbelieve as a low-power version of Dispel Illusions, which does not require visual contact.

How does that spell (DISPEL ILLUSIONS) work, I wonder? What's the in-game explanation?

Wizard: Hey brothers, I think I've discovered a dimension of sentient skepticism. I wonder how we could use that? ;)

[Shostak]

Originally Posted by TippetsTX

How does that spell (DISPEL ILLUSIONS) work, I wonder? What's the in-game explanation?

Wizard: Hey brothers, I think I've discovered a dimension of sentient skepticism. I wonder how we could use that? ;)

Or maybe its the arcane analog of an electromagnetic pulse?

[Drakenbow]

Originally Posted by TippetsTX

I'm on the other side... disbelieve is described as a spell that anyone can use so I require the 'disbeliever' to focus on the target of that action. If the illusion is out-of-sight, that focus is broken.

So, sort of like the rule of where a wizard can cast some spells (that is, in the wizard's hex, any adjacent hex, or anywhere in the front hexes, but that eye contact with the target of disbelief must be there?

That does sound like a fair call.

[TippetsTX]

Out of sight, out of mind.
;)