Seamus's Staff

[WhiteLily]

Uncle Seamus, a delver-to-go, features a staff that has a $475 crystal ball built into it.

I'm assuming this improves its value for a power item, but I was unable to find a specific rule on adding items to weapons.

[sjmdw45]

Adventurers page 115, Power Items: "You can then add value by declaring the article to be bejeweled, antique,
etc.; just pay extra when you buy it."

[restlessgriffin]

Originally Posted by WhiteLily

Uncle Seamus, a delver-to-go, features a staff that has a $475 crystal ball built into it.

I'm assuming this improves its value for a power item, but I was unable to find a specific rule on adding items to weapons.

I'm assuming it is mounted on top of the staff. So can said staff be used to extend the wizards reach? Touch? Say if Seamus touches someone with the tip (which is a crystal, not previously living like the rest of the staff) does that touch still apply for casting a magic spell on person/creature/object touched?

[Dalin]

Originally Posted by restlessgriffin

I'm assuming it is mounted on top of the staff. So can said staff be used to extend the wizards reach? Touch? Say if Seamus touches someone with the tip (which is a crystal, not previously living like the rest of the staff) does that touch still apply for casting a magic spell on person/creature/object touched?

I would count it as a normal staff in all mechanical ways. Similar to the As You Like It rule for armor (Adventurers, p. 109), I think the intent here isn't for the particular description of the bejeweling to change the nature of the item beyond making it more valuable. One could, of course, always come up with a more detailed description if this seems to break willing suspension of disbelief: maybe there are wooden prongs that hold the ball in place and extend beyond it.

[mburr0003]

Originally Posted by Dalin

I would count it as a normal staff in all mechanical ways.

Exactly, as long as it's stats are teh same as a Staff, it's a Staff. Everything else is just fluff test.

Which means no mounting a speartip and then trying to have a "Wizard's Staff" spear. (I'd allow it with a completely Dragonbone spear, see Dungeon Fantasy 8 Treasure Tables*, but then that's super expensive and comes with the added "and now Dragons really hate you" caveat.)


* For anyone not wanting to buy a whole (but great) book for one rule: Treat Dragonbone as Orichalcum for organic non-flexible weapons. So, mostly staves and wands. Though I've also had a PC ask about Dragonbone arrows once.

[benz72]

Originally Posted by mburr0003

Which means no mounting a speartip and then trying to have a "Wizard's Staff" spear. (I'd allow it with a completely Dragonbone spear, see Dungeon Fantasy 8 Treasure Tables*, but then that's super expensive and comes with the added "and now Dragons really hate you" caveat.)

I'd be open to spear tips on wizard staffs. Even if you want to have the 'previously living' requirement maintained you can just have a Druid spell make the wooden point more durable (treat it as steel) or incredibly durable (treat it as orichalcum) for a cost.
I really don't see allowing a wizard to use thrust imp attacks if they want to as radically unbalanced. Hopefully they can think of better things to do anyway.

[sjmdw45]

Originally Posted by benz72

I'd be open to spear tips on wizard staffs. Even if you want to have the 'previously living' requirement maintained you can just have a Druid spell make the wooden point more durable (treat it as steel) or incredibly durable (treat it as orichalcum) for a cost.
I really don't see allowing a wizard to use thrust imp attacks if they want to as radically unbalanced. Hopefully they can think of better things to do anyway.

Yeah, especially because quarterstaff d6+2 (5.5) swing damage is generally better in DF than spear d6 (3.5) imp damage, given the high incidence of Unliving/Homogeneous/etc. and high-ish DR. And quarterstaffs give you +2 to parries, and have a more flexible reach (1,2 vs. 1,2*).

There might be game setting reasons to say no, but from a balance perspective it's fine.

Originally Posted by restlessgriffin

I'm assuming it is mounted on top of the staff. So can said staff be used to extend the wizards reach? Touch? Say if Seamus touches someone with the tip (which is a crystal, not previously living like the rest of the staff) does that touch still apply for casting a magic spell on person/creature/object touched?

Long staves are not available on Adventurers pg 118, and maybe there's a reason for that, but as GM if you like the idea of reach 3 magic staves it's not a stretch to add them e.g. by letting long staves (reach 2,3) be enchanted. But letting it work with a non-living crystal doesn't make sense.