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Old 07-17-2020, 11:48 PM   #1
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Default Can a fighter with Clinch but no Judo/Wrestling points execute throws from locks?

I'm guessing no, because a throw from a lock requires Judo (Throw) or a lock technique. Since the only valid targets for Clinch are the head, neck, or torso and Head Lock only defaults from Judo/Wrestling skills (not raw DX or ST) that means a throw from a lock is invalid for the striking hyper-specialist. Am I correct?

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EDIT: Changed striker > fighter. I'm not referring to the "Striker" advantage, I mean a fighter with striking Skills only (and the Clinch Perk).

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Old 07-18-2020, 12:34 AM   #2
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Default Re: Can a striker with Clinch but no Judo/Wrestling points execute throws from locks?

A Striker can only hit not grab as its not a manipulator. So no Clinch or arm lock.
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Old 07-18-2020, 12:51 AM   #3
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Default Re: Can a striker with Clinch but no Judo/Wrestling points execute throws from locks?

Oh! I was ambiguous with my term and shouldn't have used the word "striker". I meant a fighter with only striking skills (say, Brawling or Karate) and Clinch. Not a "Striker" as in the Advantage.
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Old 07-18-2020, 01:01 AM   #4
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Default Re: Can a striker with Clinch but no Judo/Wrestling points execute throws from locks?

Ah!
Well Brawling at least lets you grapple but is not sophisticated enough for an Arm Lock. However you could try adding a Skill Adaptation perk, youll need GM permission but its not unbalanced.
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:52 AM   #5
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Default Re: Can a striker with Clinch but no Judo/Wrestling points execute throws from locks?

Brawling does not let you Grapple, it is specifically a striking skill, not a grappling skill (Basic, p. 370, and Martial Arts, p. 55).
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Brawling does not let you Grapple, it is specifically a striking skill, not a grappling skill (Basic, p. 370, and Martial Arts, p. 55).
Yeah, but see Eye-Gouging (Martial Arts p. 71) and various entries for Bite.
Its not a very good grappling skill but though it may not be a Grappling skill (term of art, per p. B370) but its used to grab an opponent, especially by animals. Also Technical Grappling gives it an Average trained ST progression.
Its like saying Sumo Wrestling is not a Striking skill but can be used to hit or strike someone.
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