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Old 05-03-2020, 05:21 AM   #1
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How exactly would you represent the ability to fighting while doing a handstand on two hands (or one hand). Obviously you're kicking, but is this just an unusual posture of some variety? Making a martial arts style for a wuxia game and I was stumped. Ideas welcome.

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Old 05-03-2020, 07:55 AM   #2
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Assuming you're completely used to doing this, the obvious problems are that your vision is somewhat limited by your head being so close to the floor, and you're extremely vulnerable to knockback. It would seem best to keep both hands on the ground whenever you kick, or are at risk of being hit, to stay at "extremely vulnerable" and not make it any worse.

The upside is that there's no problem with kicking and missing, since you aren't using your legs to stay upright. Also, nobody will complain about being penalised for not having Style Familiarity with this style.
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:05 AM   #3
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I think capoeira has some kind of cartwheel kicks which kind of fit your description. How effective they are in real fights not mattering in this context of course.
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I think capoeira has some kind of cartwheel kicks which kind of fit your description. How effective they are in real fights not mattering in this context of course.
Last I heard Capoeira was precisely about this - allegedly because it was designed to be used by people with manacles on. But I've never seen much analysis on how it works as a fighting style … never heard of it coming up in UFC/MMA style events though so I'm guessing it might not stack up all that well with conventional styles.
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Old 05-04-2020, 04:45 PM   #5
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Last I heard Capoeira was precisely about this - allegedly because it was designed to be used by people with manacles on. But I've never seen much analysis on how it works as a fighting style … never heard of it coming up in UFC/MMA style events though so I'm guessing it might not stack up all that well with conventional styles.
Marcus Aurelio used capoeira before focusing on BJJ, though I never saw him doing a handstand, it was easily recognizable.
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Old 05-04-2020, 08:47 PM   #6
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Gymkata aside, seems like something like this might also take a page from "use the lower of Acrobatics or unarmed combat skill" like fighting while mounted.
That's a really great idea.
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Old 05-03-2020, 11:49 AM   #7
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How exactly would you represent the ability to fighting while doing a handstand on two hands (or one hand). Obviously you're kicking, but is this just an unusual posture of some variety? Making a martial arts style for a wuxia game and I was stumped. Ideas welcome.

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I'm afraid you're going to need to watch (re-watch?) Kurt Thomas' Gymkata for your sins.
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I'm afraid you're going to need to watch (re-watch?) Kurt Thomas' Gymkata for your sins.
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This has been mostly useful. Thank you! Varyon I'm going to use your idea for a perk and see how it runs. Might need to be a technique instead, but with its suggested drawbacks I think it's probably worth a perk at most.
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This has been mostly useful. Thank you! Varyon I'm going to use your idea for a perk and see how it runs. Might need to be a technique instead, but with its suggested drawbacks I think it's probably worth a perk at most.
Gymkata aside, seems like something like this might also take a page from "use the lower of Acrobatics or unarmed combat skill" like fighting while mounted.
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