Is there a PDF version of the new TFT for sale?

[mark hill]

if yes, where/how do I get it?

If not, is the hardback book a complete set of the new rules?

[RVA_Grandpa]

Originally Posted by mark hill

if yes, where/how do I get it?

If not, is the hardback book a complete set of the new rules?

None of the rule books have been released yet through stores or W23. The only copies were released to the supporters of the kickstarter.

According to everything I've seen, the release date is June 2019. Look here for more information:

https://thefantasytrip.game/products...the-labyrinth/

Second Question: The hardback is the complete rules set.

[hcobb]

I strongly advise getting a copy of Melee also, as it covers certain rule aspects that are left unclear ITL.

[mark hill]

I have multiple copies of the 1977 to 1981 stuff .. has lots changed? or is it very close? many big alterations?

[Chris Rice]

Originally Posted by mark hill

I have multiple copies of the 1977 to 1981 stuff .. has lots changed? or is it very close? many big alterations?

Melee and Wizard are essentially the same as before. There have been changes to In The Labyrinth; some new Talents and Spells, a new XP system, but even then the changes are minor. It's the same great game, just in a shiny new edition.

[hcobb]

Big changes:

• Skill points not the same as IQ level
• Very very few characters will add more than 7 attribute points
• Other things to spend XPs on, extra skill points or Mana
• The Staff spell is very different from Wizard

[JLV]

(Erm..."Skill Points" aren't actually a thing anymore, except as a mechanism used to create a new character -- they certainly don't have anything to do with an ongoing campaign.) You buy talents and spells with XP now, and the only limitation deriving from IQ is what LEVEL of talent or spell you can buy (that is, if your IQ is 10, you can't buy an IQ 11 talent or spell). The new hardback version of ITL DOES include Advanced Wizard and Advanced Melee (with some changes over the classic versions, and they're actually called "Advanced Combat" and "Advanced Magic" now) in it, so if you have it, you have all the rules currently out there... You CAN pre-order it via Steve Jackson games -- I think that Phil has published a usable link several times over on the "Thank You, Everyone!" thread.

(Edited to add: The new versions of Melee and Wizard are identical to the original versions. Really, the only reason to get them is for the large nifty new heavy-duty counters and the larger hex size maps. But, they're well worth getting for that alone!)

[philreed]

Originally Posted by mark hill

if yes, where/how do I get it?

We have not yet released the PDFs for sale outside of previous Kickstarter campaigns. As a part of the Decks of Destiny project, on Kickstarter late this month, there will be an option to purchase the PDFs.

Please follow the Warehouse 23 Kickstarter account for notification when the Decks of Destiny campaign goes live: https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/warehouse23/created

[mark hill]

LOL! the death and unconsciousness numbers are the same as my home campaign has been using! weve also been using fatigue exceeding ST does not kill ya, just makes you unconscious .. probably got quite heretical out in isolation

Dwarves losing their +1 ax/mace .. that however we didnt do .. I had 'balanced' it by giving em base MA 8 and barring them from the Running talent (used Gimli's behaviour in the LotR films as a 'logical proof' justification for that .. like its a real thing LOL)

heavy xbow was 15 DX for 1shot/2turns .. I never was super comfy with that, wondered if it wouldnt be better that all crossbows were the same speed, but just needed more muscley guys to cock them .. for quite a while weve been using light ballista (4d6 damage) as a giant's crossbow, that they can fire 1/2turns (obviously they never get enuf DX to do it faster)

halflings got nerfed? aww lol .. I know a few exploit loving players who wont like that

I drew a buncha prone undead figures for 'Romero' type zombies .. the contagious disease kind that need headshots to destroy, like in most films .. normal damage equal to their ST we reckoned simply broke their spines, ruined their ability to walk and made em into MA 1 'crawlers'

is there any rules for heavier, high ST bows? Im really dyin to read them new rules