The Apple of Discord

Anders · 07-09-2017, 03:28 PM

What kind of powers would the famous Apple of Discord, the Eris Apple, from Greek myth have? The apple looks like a normal specimen, apart from being made of gold and having the words "ΤΗΙ ΚΑΛΛΙΣΤΗΙ" (for the fairest [female]) on it. Presumably any woman who sees the apple is struck by desire to have it, and only the fact that three of the greatest Olympian goddesses wanted it prompted other women at Peleus's wedding to shut up and complain about it on the way home. (On a side note, if Eris is still active I expect her to be the goddess of Internet trolls - this was an epic* act of trolling).

* in the true sense of the word

mr beer · 07-09-2017, 06:50 PM

Grants the 'Delusion: Must attain this Apple!'? Would have modifiers Cosmic (Affects Even the Gods Themselves!) which must be +300% and then Affects Female Only.

Not sure Delusion is right though.

mikeejimbo · 07-09-2017, 07:30 PM

Obsession might be a better fit. Though I think maybe the Apple doesn't have any powers, but everyone in the myth has Jealousy and Delusion: I'm the Fairest.

David Johnston2 · 07-09-2017, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeejimbo

Obsession might be a better fit. Though I think maybe the Apple doesn't have any powers, but everyone in the myth has Jealousy and Delusion: I'm the Fairest.

As a holy object of a goddess I would give it powers. I think these interpretations are a little on the nose though. Personally I'd make the focus of an always on Suggestion "I have to win!" and an inscription that shifts to match circumstances to whatever would cause the most conflict. For the strongest. For the fastest. For the most brilliant...

PTTG · 07-10-2017, 12:07 AM

I'd say the apple inflicts a heavy (but not extreme) will penalty that ignores all defenses.

Thus, mortal women would certainly feel whatever Greed, Overconfidence, or Vanity disadvantages they might happen to have, but wouldn't think they could overcome goddesses for it.

As a special effect, the GM may rule that it also inflates quirks to full-blown disadvantages for its effects.

whswhs · 07-10-2017, 01:29 AM

I don't believe that the apple had any special magical qualities. It was an extremely beautiful apple, perhaps Transcendent, but the important thing about it was the label, "Kallisti," "for the most beautiful." That was brilliantly calculated to stir up dissension among the three goddesses, but I think all that took was Eris's special psychological insight.

07-09-2017, 03:28 PM	#1
Anders Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	The Apple of Discord What kind of powers would the famous Apple of Discord, the Eris Apple, from Greek myth have? The apple looks like a normal specimen, apart from being made of gold and having the words "ΤΗΙ ΚΑΛΛΙΣΤΗΙ" (for the fairest [female]) on it. Presumably any woman who sees the apple is struck by desire to have it, and only the fact that three of the greatest Olympian goddesses wanted it prompted other women at Peleus's wedding to shut up and complain about it on the way home. (On a side note, if Eris is still active I expect her to be the goddess of Internet trolls - this was an epic* act of trolling). * in the true sense of the word __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius Author of Winged Folk. The GURPS Discord. Drop by and say hi!

07-09-2017, 06:50 PM	#2
mr beer Join Date: Mar 2013	Re: The Apple of Discord Grants the 'Delusion: Must attain this Apple!'? Would have modifiers Cosmic (Affects Even the Gods Themselves!) which must be +300% and then Affects Female Only. Not sure Delusion is right though.

07-09-2017, 07:30 PM	#3
mikeejimbo Join Date: Jul 2007	Re: The Apple of Discord Obsession might be a better fit. Though I think maybe the Apple doesn't have any powers, but everyone in the myth has Jealousy and Delusion: I'm the Fairest.

07-10-2017, 12:07 AM	#5
PTTG Join Date: Feb 2011	Re: The Apple of Discord I'd say the apple inflicts a heavy (but not extreme) will penalty that ignores all defenses. Thus, mortal women would certainly feel whatever Greed, Overconfidence, or Vanity disadvantages they might happen to have, but wouldn't think they could overcome goddesses for it. As a special effect, the GM may rule that it also inflates quirks to full-blown disadvantages for its effects.

07-10-2017, 01:29 AM	#6
whswhs Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lawrence, KS	Re: The Apple of Discord I don't believe that the apple had any special magical qualities. It was an extremely beautiful apple, perhaps Transcendent, but the important thing about it was the label, "Kallisti," "for the most beautiful." That was brilliantly calculated to stir up dissension among the three goddesses, but I think all that took was Eris's special psychological insight. __________________ Bill Stoddard I don't think we're in Oz any more.