[Dungeon Fantasy] Druid without obligation to Nature

[Walrus]

Hello.

The Druid template from DF1 doesn't include Sense of Duty (Nature) but it includes Disciplines of Faith.

So, the question is whether any Druid should treat the Nature with caution and care or is it possible for a Druid to live by principles like "The Nature isn't a temple but a workshop" and "We shouldn't expect Nature's charity, taking that is our goal"? Treating the Nature as a tool not as a patron.

I mean more not a fluff concept, but "Under the Hood" mechanics of Druidic Power Modifier. Wouldn't such behaviour be too stretching from Druid concept and more similar to Animal- and Plant- College Wizard or Knowledge-Nature-Order Priest?

[Randyman]

Originally Posted by Walrus

Hello.

The Druid template from DF1 doesn't include Sense of Duty (Nature) but it includes Disciplines of Faith.

So, the question is whether any Druid should treat the Nature with caution and care or is it possible for a Druid to live by principles like "The Nature isn't a temple but a workshop" and "We shouldn't expect Nature's charity, taking that is our goal"? Treating the Nature as an instrument.

I mean more not a fluff concept, but "Under the Hood" mechanics of Druidic Power Modifier. Wouldn't such behaviour be too stretching from Druid concept and more similar to Animal- and Plant- College Wizard or Knowledge-Nature-Order Priest?

I vote yes to main question. Shifting the emphasis from "preservation uber alles" to "productivity through long-term stewardship" is a plus in my book.

[Anaraxes]

Keep in mind that a GURPS Disadvantage is about restrictions -- what you can't and won't do. Being free to pillage nature's bounty just like everyone else, and use it as a tool to suit whatever your ends happen to be, isn't a restriction. That's not to say it's a bad character concept or a poor philosophy, just that it's not an inconvenient limitation that's worth getting a lot of Character Points. Compare with other Disciplines of Faith.

[Walrus]

Could such Progressive Druids be somewhat like Gray Necromancers from Pyramid 3/50? Somewhat inflated cost on abilities but with less restrictions and broader and shifted spectrum?

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by Walrus

Hello.

The Druid template from DF1 doesn't include Sense of Duty (Nature) but it includes Disciplines of Faith.

So, the question is whether any Druid should treat the Nature with caution and care or is it possible for a Druid to live by principles like "The Nature isn't a temple but a workshop" and "We shouldn't expect Nature's charity, taking that is our goal"? Treating the Nature as a tool not as a patron.

I mean more not a fluff concept, but "Under the Hood" mechanics of Druidic Power Modifier. Wouldn't such behaviour be too stretching from Druid concept and more similar to Animal- and Plant- College Wizard or Knowledge-Nature-Order Priest?

It might work. Much of that Green Druid idea was an invention of urbanites in the romantic era and is simply another aspect of the noble savage myth. That does not mean that there is nothing to the idea of nature worship, etc. Simply that druids were not hippies.

[Dammann]

Originally Posted by Walrus

The Druid template from DF1 doesn't include Sense of Duty (Nature) but it includes Disciplines of Faith.

What? My copy does. Sense of Duty (Wild Nature), DF1 page 7. I mean, play whatever is fun, but DF Druids are hippies, afaict.

[Randyman]

Originally Posted by Dammann

What? My copy does. Sense of Duty (Wild Nature), DF1 page 7. I mean, play whatever is fun, but DF Druids are hippies, afaict.

Hence the original question: non-hippy Druids? I still say yes.

[jason taylor]

Just to start with, would a Druid have a concept of "nature" as opposed to "oak, ash, and thorn"(or even "this oak, that ash, the other thorn")?

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

Just to start with, would a Druid have a concept of "nature" as opposed to "oak, ash, and thorn"(or even "this oak, that ash, the other thorn")?

They aren't historical druids and devotion to "nature" worked as a "Neutral" alignment premise.

[malloyd]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

Just to start with, would a Druid have a concept of "nature" as opposed to "oak, ash, and thorn"(or even "this oak, that ash, the other thorn")?

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

They aren't historical druids and devotion to "nature" worked as a "Neutral" alignment premise.

The "oak ash and thorn" form isn't particularly historical either. But if you are connecting RPG druids to anything from before the 19th century, stop. There's no connection and never has been. Fantasy druids don't get any closer to actual history than Robert Graves, René Goscinny and Henry Kuttner.