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Old 12-05-2013, 02:26 PM   #1
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Default [DF] "Racial" gear and Signature Gear

Certain races (e.g. dwarves, elves) get a 10% discount when purchasing gear made be their race. Since the price of Signature Gear is based on price, does this discount extend to that?
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:38 PM   #2
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I suppose so, but isn't SG already overpowered enough?
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:28 PM   #3
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Also doesn't that only apply to special items with the Elven or Dwarven modifier, not just standard equipment that happened to be made by a given race. So that a ordinary axe that happened to be made by a Dwarf is still just an axe but if its a specially made axe that receives the Dwarven bonuses then it qualifies under the racial gear perk.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:11 AM   #4
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Certain races (e.g. dwarves, elves) get a 10% discount when purchasing gear made be their race. Since the price of Signature Gear is based on price, does this discount extend to that?
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Also doesn't that only apply to special items with the Elven or Dwarven modifier, not just standard equipment that happened to be made by a given race. So that a ordinary axe that happened to be made by a Dwarf is still just an axe but if its a specially made axe that receives the Dwarven bonuses then it qualifies under the racial gear perk.


I agree with Ciaran. As a GM, I would rule that the discount applies to a piece of signature gear, but only if that piece of signature gear has the appropriate price modifier applied to it (Dwarven for a dwarf's discount for example.)
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:05 AM   #5
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Consider though that the discount applies to the full price of the item, so for a dwarf, a Very Fine Balanced Tempered Glass Dwarven axe might be cheaper than the same axe without the Dwarven modifier. Of course, this requires a lot of added CF, so it's certainly not easily attainable via signature gear, but it's something to consider. Also, Dwarven also applies to items with Dwarven in the name, such as Dwarven Rations.

Elven gear is much less of a good deal though, as not only is the CF higher, it also applies to less gear, and it's gear that is usually more expensive and takes less high CF modifiers.

Neither is problematic IME, and both seem to fade in the background after a delve or 3.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:39 PM   #6
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Elven gear is much less of a good deal though, as not only is the CF higher, it also applies to less gear, and it's gear that is usually more expensive and takes less high CF modifiers.
Elven Rations are a much better deal than Dwarven Rations, though.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:56 PM   #7
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Consider though that the discount applies to the full price of the item
Does it? Or it is -0.1 CF to the specific trait?
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:34 AM   #8
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Certain races (e.g. dwarves, elves) get a 10% discount when purchasing gear made be their race. Since the price of Signature Gear is based on price, does this discount extend to that?
The 10% discount is a manifestation of the "Cheaper Gear" perk. The discount can be as high as 40% with a narrow enough focus, like "Elven Bows" or Dwarven Axes" or "Spidersilk Armors".

This leads me to believe that reducing the cash cost via your special circumstances perk should NOT have an impact on the sig. gear price...
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