Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance?

JCurwen3 · 01-25-2013, 05:15 PM

As it is, unless you add Malediction, a beneficial Affliction may end up resisted by a target even if they want it. But +100% seems steep if you want nothing else from Malediction's mechanics.

Would Cosmic: Rules exception (50%) be fair to allow targets to waive resistance if they wanted to do so? Any downsides?

Christopher R. Rice · 01-25-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JCurwen3

As it is, unless you add Malediction, a beneficial Affliction may end up resisted by a target even if they want it. But +100% seems steep if you want nothing else from Malediction's mechanics.

Would Cosmic: Rules exception (50%) be fair to allow targets to waive resistance if they wanted to do so? Any downsides?

Yep. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

the_matrix_walker · 01-25-2013, 06:07 PM

Seconded. Seems perfectly fine to me.

Refplace · 01-25-2013, 06:28 PM

Had t think about it but I agree.
Unless your casting it on really unhealthy people your likely to succeed anyhow.
I dont see Cosmic as unbalancing or a big deal.

Anthony · 01-25-2013, 07:06 PM

Eh. I'd allow any character without a specific restriction (e.g. Magic Resistance) who's aware of the attempt to waive resistance at will, no enhancement required.

jeff_wilson · 01-25-2013, 08:20 PM

IIRC, a willing and aware subject can already decline to resist. I may be leaving out an enhancment that lets "the attacker" make the roll by +0

~~Peter Knutsen~~ · 01-26-2013, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Refplace

Unless your casting it on really unhealthy people your likely to succeed anyhow.

No. An average target has HT 10 and will thus only succeed half the time.

+50% Cosmic does sound reasonable, though.

munin · 01-26-2013, 10:56 AM

The problem with using Cosmic, +50% to waive a beneficial activation roll (what we might as well call a reversed resistance roll) is that you're also getting one of the biggest parts of Malediction: ignoring DR (if they don't have to roll, they don't have to worry about their DR making the roll harder). Thus, you're asking for most of the benefits of Malediction 1 (waive activation roll, ignore DR) with few of the drawbacks (Short Range penalties, can't add other penetration modifiers) and saying it's worth less.

Thus, I think this is in the Cosmic, No die roll required, +100% territory (the usual enhancement to ignore an activation roll). With that enhancement, if their HT - 1 + AfflictionLevel - DR* is 3 or greater, they don't have to roll. It costs the same as Malediction 1, but it retains the 2/3/5 range penalties of an unmodified attack.

* A strict reading of the Beneficial Afflictions rule (p. P40) would imply that DR would make the roll easier, which doesn't make sense to me so I've ignored it.

01-25-2013, 05:15 PM	#1
JCurwen3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY	Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance? As it is, unless you add Malediction, a beneficial Affliction may end up resisted by a target even if they want it. But +100% seems steep if you want nothing else from Malediction's mechanics. Would Cosmic: Rules exception (50%) be fair to allow targets to waive resistance if they wanted to do so? Any downsides? __________________ -JC

01-25-2013, 06:07 PM	#3
the_matrix_walker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lynn, MA	Re: Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance? Seconded. Seems perfectly fine to me.

01-25-2013, 06:28 PM	#4
Refplace Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Yukon, OK	Re: Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance? Had t think about it but I agree. Unless your casting it on really unhealthy people your likely to succeed anyhow. I dont see Cosmic as unbalancing or a big deal. __________________ My GURPS publications GURPS Powers: Totem and Nature Spirits; GURPS Template Toolkit 4: Spirits; Pyramid articles. Buying them lets us know you want more! My GURPS fan contribution and blog: REFPLace GURPS Landing Page My List of GURPS You Tube videos (plus a few other useful items) My GURPS Wiki entries

01-25-2013, 07:06 PM	#5
Anthony Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Berkeley, CA	Re: Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance? Eh. I'd allow any character without a specific restriction (e.g. Magic Resistance) who's aware of the attempt to waive resistance at will, no enhancement required.

01-25-2013, 08:20 PM	#6
jeff_wilson Computer Scientist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas	Re: Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance? IIRC, a willing and aware subject can already decline to resist. I may be leaving out an enhancment that lets "the attacker" make the roll by +0 __________________ . Reposed playtest leader. The Campaigns of William Stoddard Last edited by jeff_wilson; 01-25-2013 at 08:24 PM.

01-26-2013, 10:56 AM	#8
munin Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vermont, USA	Re: Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance? The problem with using Cosmic, +50% to waive a beneficial activation roll (what we might as well call a reversed resistance roll) is that you're also getting one of the biggest parts of Malediction: ignoring DR (if they don't have to roll, they don't have to worry about their DR making the roll harder). Thus, you're asking for most of the benefits of Malediction 1 (waive activation roll, ignore DR) with few of the drawbacks (Short Range penalties, can't add other penetration modifiers) and saying it's worth less. Thus, I think this is in the Cosmic, No die roll required, +100% territory (the usual enhancement to ignore an activation roll). With that enhancement, if their HT - 1 + AfflictionLevel - DR* is 3 or greater, they don't have to roll. It costs the same as Malediction 1, but it retains the 2/3/5 range penalties of an unmodified attack. * A strict reading of the Beneficial Afflictions rule (p. P40) would imply that DR would make the roll easier, which doesn't make sense to me so I've ignored it.