Telegraphic Attack and Feint

[Anders]

Can I choose Telegraphic Attack with a Feint? Would that make it easier to score a hit on the next round?

[Peter V. Dell'Orto]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Can I choose Telegraphic Attack with a Feint? Would that make it easier to score a hit on the next round?

Do you mean Feint, with a +4 for Telegraphic Attack?

No.

It's abusive, in game terms (you're getting a +4 in return for . . . no penalties) and unrealistic - Feints are telegraphed (or appear as telegraphed motions) or they don't work.

[Icelander]

Originally Posted by Toadkiller_Dog

Do you mean Feint, with a +4 for Telegraphic Attack?

I think he's talking about following up a Feint with a Telegraphic Attack. Maybe because the target is difficult to hit or he has low enough skill to make it almost impossible to attack at all without the +4. Such as a normal human trying to strike the head of another human.

Personally, I don't see any reason not to allow it. Yes, it reduces the effectiveness of the Feint, but maybe you are hoping that you won with such a large margin that the +2 to the opponent's defences won't matter.

[Anders]

No, I meant exactly what Toadkiller Dog was talking about. I thought it should be prohibited but I didn't know if it actually was.

[the_matrix_walker]

No, Telegraphic Attack is an Attack Modifier, You can trade an attack for a feint, but faints don't come with all the attack options. And it would be self defeating... a telegraphed feint is by definition obvious and ergo worthless.

[Gigermann]

MA113:

A Telegraphic Attack is the opposite of a Deceptive Attack (p. B369) and you cannot combine the two. Likewise, you cannot use a Telegraphic Attack as a Riposte (pp. 124-125) and it gains no benefit from an earlier feint.

[Edit]In retrospect, that's not actually the question(?)

Telegraphic gives +4 to the "attack" and a +2 to the "defense" against it—which, since it's a Skill contest, would instead be +4 (modifiers to defense are usually halved, compared to everything else). If so, they would cancel each other in the contest, and would, therefore, be pointless.

[Lord Azagthoth]

I never understood why in GURPS, Telegraphic attack has a +4 when attacking.

The +2 for defense of the target sounds logical (although I would give it a +4 when I compare it to real fights where an attacker launches a Telegraphic attack, so slow, so obvious that the defender sees it so easily coming).

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Lord Azagthoth

I never understood why in GURPS, Telegraphic attack has a +4 when attacking.

The +2 for defense of the target sounds logical (although I would give it a +4 when I compare it to real fights where an attacker launches a Telegraphic attack, so slow, so obvious that the defender sees it so easily coming).

I don't get it. What sort of benefit would you want it to grant instead?

[Lord Azagthoth]

Originally Posted by vicky_molokh

I don't get it. What sort of benefit would you want it to grant instead?

Benefit? I was thinking of at least a quirk, if not even a disadvantage. In a real fight, telegraphing your attack is a major disadvantage. You lose fights because of that. Opponents simply evade your attack without effort even before your attack even comes near.