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Originally Posted by sir_pudding
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Okay, now what's the difference between that and 'regular' fighting that has you dodging, blocking and parrying?
Do characters stand like rockem sockem robots during normal fight?
Or are we to envision this same back and forth dancing for normal fights too?
After all, they're in a big old yard hex with plenty of room to spare.
This is just normal fighting, noone in here retreats.
In boxing you don't have to yield the advance of Tyson, you can just stand there if he goes forward, in fact, isn't that what Buster Douglas did to him?
Catch him all the time in a clinch?
When Tyson and co dance around, then they're just doing normal boxing fighting. It's not a special feature of boxing. It's part of spacing which boxing is tied to, without it, you can't box.
Usually the reason why someone retreats in boxing is to box back. But theoretically you could just clinch it all day. And boxers don't like clinches cause punching is less effective at that range.
(and it's also the reason they're blocking all the time. They're in range!)
Same with that swordfight, if one of these just stood still, the other would have to monkey it up, but none had to because the momentum would be too crazy to handle and the fight would go bonkers. They both were committed to the fight and the repositioning is natural to it. Noone had to reengage because the fight kept going. You slash, this carries you in some direction, the other guy knows this and adjusts accordingly. This is a normal fight.
You know what's a retreat in that clip?
When they both walk away from one another after getting to close/scoring.
Truly out of reach. Not just a realtime dodge, the walking around IS the dodge (because turns are played at the same time)
This is just standard fighting with natural repositions. Noone is retreating here.
They're both committed, it's not a retreating dodge, noone is bailing, or anything.
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And maybe I can even prove that this was just normal regular fight dodging.
Let's say one of the swordfighters overpressures the other and he caves in and the other starts hacking away because the other is unable to deal with the advance.
You think there's a dodge then? Is the other sword guy going matrix in that situatin and weaving around the swinging steel!?!?
I mean technically he'd be trying to dodge by virtue of anyone automatically tying to not get hit, but he'd basically be beat at that point. With any further writhing just being 'a normal side effect'.
Furthermore, dodging a ranged attack doesn't dodge the bullet or the arrow, it means you MOVE in a way that makes the shooter miss.
You're not retreating.
You're not doing a retreating dodge (unless you are, but those tend to shift body posture you start RUNNING etc) you merely MOVE in a way that makes the other guy miss. You're not waiting for the bullet, step around it and end up in the same spot.