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Old 08-29-2020, 09:13 AM   #5003
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHowl View Post
One possibility would be if Harmon had successfully defeated Wilson during the 1912 Democratic National Convention. A modestly progressive Midwestern governor, he would have likely still won when TR divided the vote with Taft. A much less racist indivudual, he would have likely been too involved in domestic racial tensions during his second term to bother with WW1, as he would have likely not implemented the segregationist policies of Wilson. Without the US involvement, the war would have ended in late 1917, likely with Germany losing its oversees territories but gaining the territories that it took from Russia, Austria-Hungary surviving for a couple more decades before falling apart, and Turkey collapsing a couple years later.
This would set up a radically different WWII. The German Imperial state would still be around. That would prevent the rose of Hitler, although both anti-Semitism and German chauvinism would still be likely to grow in Germany (if for no other reason than the Prince Imperial, if I read correctly, was a bigot). Germany would be stronger, but there would be more hostility directed towards them. Willy boy wanted to make the Ottoman Empire and Iran German colonies. The loss of Germany's overseas territories would only make this desire stronger. As a German India was the final goal, Willy boy's desires mean he'd force WWII early. Maybe the late 1920s would see Germany making a grab for the near East and getting an alliance of Britain, France, Russia, the Ottomans, the Arabs, and others all aligned against them.
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