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Old 09-24-2018, 05:09 PM   #61
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Default Re: Help stat Queen Elizabeth of England.

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Originally Posted by Agemegos View Post
Pedantic note (sorry). She's queen of the United Kingdom, not of England, and in 1941 was a princess, not queen. Queen Elizabeth of England died in 1603, and there has been no king nor queen if England since 1707.
That's how I misread it. What Queen Elizabeth I the Tudor?

The medieval conquest and subsequent annexation of Wales by the Kingdom of England, followed by the union between England and Scotland in 1707 to form the Kingdom of Great Britain.

The union in 1801 of Great Britain with the Kingdom of Ireland created the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

Five-sixths of Ireland seceded from the UK in 1922, leaving the present formulation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Therefore the UK of GB and NI is only about 96 years old.

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Originally Posted by Astromancer View Post
I haven't read the whole thread, but shouldn't she get somekind of advantage based on the attitude of the British people to their Royal family. There are literally millions of people who'd kill or die for this woman. Tens of millions who, even when they called her "one of the little princesses," regarded her with the same love and loyalty they'd give a family member. Not all Brits care about the royals, but she has one hell of an ally group!
From recent times the devotion to the Royals is about 50%.

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Originally Posted by Pursuivant View Post
Good call on the Broad-Minded quirk. Elizabeth doesn't appear to have been infected (or as badly infected) by the anti-Catholic, anti-Semitic, racist, and jingoist sentiments which were all too common at the time.

I still maintain that she should have a tiny bit of Theology (Anglican) skill and that many of her skills should actually be covered by Dabbler perks. (e.g., did she ever have to survive outdoors for any length of time, or go through a military style survival course?) But, obviously, not a problem if you're going for a heroic version of the character.
It is not known about her political oppinions. Only suffice to say her mother and other family members were quite bigotted.

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Originally Posted by Pursuivant View Post
This is a valid point. Especially during WW2, the Royal Family was held up as a model of English virtues (conveniently forgetting the pre-war pro-Nazi sentiments of Edward VII and many members other the upper crust).

It wouldn't be unreasonable to give Elizabeth a level of Social Regard (Revered).
Edward VIII was a well known nazi sympathiser. It's the worst kept secret. Only the media go out of their way to repeat the marriage mantra.

The family would know how to:

Drive a Car
Ride a Horse
Fire a weapon: Pistol or Shotgun most likely
How to behave in a hostrage situation (ie to be extracted)

It is hard to know what other things they can do because they have so many servants to wait on them.

Rules:

Keep out of politics
Discuss matters only through the privvy council
Swear in new Prime Ministers
If asked suspend Parliament for new election
Attend functions of the state
Not allowed to vote
Not allowed in the House of Commons
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