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Old 11-04-2013, 09:39 AM   #11
Ulzgoroth
 
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Default Re: Grappled & Ranged Attacks: Martial Arts vs. Tactical Shooting vs. Technical Grapp

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Originally Posted by DouglasCole View Post
Short version is using arms without hands can be treated with No Manipulators if that level of grit is required. I think - from memory - that is a -30% to trained st. That's basically -1 per die.
Interestingly, that looks to be the same both for No Fine Manipulators and for "Arms that do not have a hand, suction cups, gecko-hairs, or hooking claws – but enough of a grip to not qualify for No Fine Manipulators".

(No Manipulators necessarily precludes having limbs to grapple with.)
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