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Originally Posted by RobW
FWIW it's in the description of the Spear Thrower talent that the prerequisites are either Pole Weapon or Thrown Weapon
Expertise and the spear thrower looks like "one of those things that each GM will need to decide for themselves".
My interpretation is that the spear thrower talent is about the combination of the spear thrower and the spear. It's a weapon system used very differently from a spear alone. Personally I feel someone could clearly have expertise or mastery with this system. I feel I see this kind of expertise in sport all the time, eg hockey
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You are absolutely correct about there being two different prereqs, that is why we discussed spear thrower use without the Pole Weapon talent and why it was still worth it.
It is a slightly different weapon system, and of course you can have expertise level with it, it is just a question if that is Pole Weapon expertise + Spear Thrower talent, or if you can have Expertise with just the Spear Thrower.
If you read the text under Spearthrower p114 it is all about throwing a spear and how the Spear thrower increases the damage when used with a spear, etc. You don't speak the same way how a bow increases the speed and accuracy of an arrow compared to how you use an arrow without a bow. Or how a stone gets bonus damage when thrown with the help of a sling. Or comments about how the sling can be reused after you ready another stone. No talk about reloading, just readying another spear in the case of a Spear and a Spearthrower.
So I would go so far as to say that RAW is that Spear throwers are a 1H weapon, used with a ready spear in the other hand (two hands required) and when you throw a spear and have a spear thrower in your other hand you get that bonus. And the only way to attack with the spear thrower itself is as a club that doesn't require a talent and hence can't be expertise.
But I am willing to say that is RAI or even a house rule. But it makes a lot more sense to me. T least more sense than comparing the speart thrower to a bow or a weapon of its own. And having special rules when the Spear thrower is enchanted as well as the spear that is actually being thrown, etc.