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Old 05-24-2010, 06:17 AM   #25
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Default Re: Tactical Shooting: A New World: A Private War On Narcoterrorism

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Originally Posted by AmesJainchill View Post
I'd just like to point out this page, and this section of this page to you.

It seems like you could indeed get ahold of all the different weapons you've listed...but why go for the P90 instead of another M4?
Partially, it was due to a preference on the part of the character in question for SMGs over rifles. Partially, it was due to the GURPS rules for Bulk.

Most practically, though, it was because their contact could supply them with as many MP5s or G3s as they wanted, but was reluctant in the extreme to supply anything that was more likely to be missed. He did have access to an M4A1 rifle and a P90 that he kept to allow foreign visitors to try for amusement.*

*Their contact wasn't a SWAT officer. He was a Captain of the Policia Federales detailed to liaison with the ARWV International experts as they worked on the managment consulting and communication protocol planning for which they were contracted.

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And are the two silenced MP5s really going to be that useful versus having another couple M4 with some more punch?
That's a debatable point, certainly, but the players did not feel inclined to argue with their contact on the issue. Could they have convinced him to sign out more M4A1s from the active SWAT armory instead of pilfering less easily tracked gear from storage? Perhaps.

But they were, at any rate, more comfortable with MP5s using subsonic JHPs than they would have been with M4A1s using supersonic M855 ball. Thin plywood walls and hostages are a poor combination when one is firing ball.*

*It is true that in some materials, 9mm rounds actually penetrate better than 5.56mm rounds that may break up shortly after contact. This fact, however, is reflected neither in GURPS game stats nor in the player's knowledge and so they considered it an article of faith that the submachine guns were safer weapons for hostage rescue. In the event, the players observed excellent shot discipline and were acutely conscious of risks downrange.

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Since this is an actual cartel property in actual Mexico, I'd rate the chances of encountering guards in soft body armor as fairly good...I suppose the suppressed weapons might get you some advantage in slowing down enemy response time...
Soft body armour was certainly present, yes, but that only encouraged the PCs to aimi for the head. Given that one was a former Delta operator, one a former Special Agent of the HRT, one a DEVGRU operator and one a Scout/Sniper from Force Recon and MARSOC; most of them had the shooting skills to do that reliably. Ironically, the team leader, being the only one among them who had not previously been a part of an elite hostage rescue unit*, was by far the least accomplished shot, though that was less because of his lack of ability than it was due to the extremely high level of proficiency among the other operators.

*US Army Rangers are an elite force, but their primary duties are different from dedicated counter-terror groups.
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