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Old 06-17-2019, 03:52 PM   #27
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Default Re: [Magic] Using ceremonial magic to create an unassailable magical fortress

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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
Any mage or skilled non-mage knows what the ceremony/ritual involves and wouldn't agree to be a willing assistant if they weren't okay with it. An unskilled supporter, on the other hand, might change their mind partway through
What about a skilled 15+ mage who knows he wants to sabotage it but feigns cooperation with the leader, while working against him?

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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
One opposed unskilled supporter, by himself, can almost cancel out the mana generated by two lesser skilled supporters [HSN or LSM] generating all the mana they can [6 points]. They don't need to be made more effective than they already are.
I was actually thinking of lowering their basic contribution to 1, and having higher numbers for mages / skill-knowers, basically just invert the previous amounts.

The 5x better thing (especially if it's super-easy to oppose, even subconsciously, from great distance) would explain a world where it's easy to deny the existence of magic, except for it not inhibiting normal non-ceremonial casting in any way.

In low-mana worlds, ceremonial casting and using the extra FP from crowds to get skill bonuses to cancel out the -5 would probably explain the reliance on it too. The maximum of 100 points for unskilled spectators is +10,000% on a 1 FP spell giving you +100 skill to cast it, which would be really useful for launching long-distance spells or large-area ones to absorb those penalties.

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Originally Posted by Anaraxes View Post
Yes, it's mostly to have an excuse for tucking away rituals in underground chambers, old churches, and dark catacombs.

"Spectate" doesn't simply mean "line of sight", as from across a battlefield. (Or another planet.)
Some definitions seem to include "at an event", which I think would mean needing to be within the parameters of the circle drawn on the ground to do the ceremony.

To use a sports analogy: they have to be seated in the bleachers themselves, not peeking over the fence or watching it on TV.

I'm not sure about UNDER the bleachers though. Like if someone was conducting a ritual in a bedroom and you were hiding under the bed, would you be a spectator?
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