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Zeta Blaze · 02-16-2016, 10:49 PM

How low magic are we talking about here?
Are subtle magics in use? are they common? Is big magic a thing but super rare? Is most magic deals with magical entities who do things for you? I need more information of what magic if any is available to set a handle on what you can do because subtle magic coupled with expert mundane skill can work wonders and still not feel like magic.

All in all the magic use assumed in the Stronghold Builders Guide (SBG here on out) has a much stronger influence on the time it takes to construct the structure than in How much it costs In the SBG a modest Castle can be raised in a couple of months to a few years tops but in real life even modest castle was the work of decades (ignoring periods where construction halts due to lack of funds) and exorbitant cost increases could only speed it up to a small degree. in essence you cant build yourself a castle in the real world but you can build your son or grandson a castle.

All in all i would estimate that all construction costs should double without magic and almost all time costs increase by at least a factor of 10. The things that would change less are very expensive finishing like rooms lined in gold and rare woods. Without magic your raw materials will vary much more wildly in cost both up and down and most of the furnishings would take roughly the time listed (at most double) as that is a good first order approximation of there craft time. Though If you have limited craftsmen of sufficient skill you may have a bottle neck as to how much you can do over a given time at that high quality level thus limiting how much you can spend but the GP/time ratio seems about right.

Also if you look in the SBG you will note that it lists cost savings for a PC who can and will cast there own major architectural spells. as an additional discount That is roughly representative of the labor costs each casting of such a spell can reasonably represent.

02-16-2016, 10:49 PM	#3
Zeta Blaze Join Date: Jul 2014	Re: Low Tech Structure Creation Rules How low magic are we talking about here? Are subtle magics in use? are they common? Is big magic a thing but super rare? Is most magic deals with magical entities who do things for you? I need more information of what magic if any is available to set a handle on what you can do because subtle magic coupled with expert mundane skill can work wonders and still not feel like magic. All in all the magic use assumed in the Stronghold Builders Guide (SBG here on out) has a much stronger influence on the time it takes to construct the structure than in How much it costs In the SBG a modest Castle can be raised in a couple of months to a few years tops but in real life even modest castle was the work of decades (ignoring periods where construction halts due to lack of funds) and exorbitant cost increases could only speed it up to a small degree. in essence you cant build yourself a castle in the real world but you can build your son or grandson a castle. All in all i would estimate that all construction costs should double without magic and almost all time costs increase by at least a factor of 10. The things that would change less are very expensive finishing like rooms lined in gold and rare woods. Without magic your raw materials will vary much more wildly in cost both up and down and most of the furnishings would take roughly the time listed (at most double) as that is a good first order approximation of there craft time. Though If you have limited craftsmen of sufficient skill you may have a bottle neck as to how much you can do over a given time at that high quality level thus limiting how much you can spend but the GP/time ratio seems about right. Also if you look in the SBG you will note that it lists cost savings for a PC who can and will cast there own major architectural spells. as an additional discount That is roughly representative of the labor costs each casting of such a spell can reasonably represent.