Feint.
 

Hello,

I, and my group, have many discutions about the correct interpretation of How feint works? on Fourth Edition.

The discution there is in two points: Feint is a maneuver that can be used on same turn (feint + attack); or I need make feint in a turn, receive the foe's attack, and then, on my next turn, make a attack with feint.

The explication on Basic Set or Martial Arts is dubious, allowing two, or more, interpretations.

So I ask the opinion of You to resolve it.

I thank so much already the attention.

Re: Feint.
 

Nota: se você for brasileiro pode responder em português mesmo! :D

Note: if You are brazilian, can answer in portuguese. :D

Re: Feint.
 

If you do it as an All-Out Attack the former, if you do it as an Attack the latter.

Re: Feint.
 

It depends on how many attacks you have in a turn.

If, as usually is the case, you have only one attack per turn then it goes like this:
Turn 1: Feint, opponent attacks.
Turn 2: Attack, benefiting from the effects of your feint on the previous turn.

If you have two or more attacks, you can substitute one of your attacks for a feint, so it goes like this:
Turn 1: Feint, Attack. Opponent attacks.

Generally, a feint substitutes for an attack on a like for like basis.

Re: Feint.
 

I thank You by the answer.

So is what I fear.... Sincerely, I prefer the feint on third edition. Feint is very useless on this way.

Thank You again and bye.

Re: Feint.
 

Feint worked the same way in 3e . . .

Re: Feint.
 

Why do you find it useless?

Re: Feint.
 

Feint is very useful, specially if you have the technique from Martial Arts that gives you +5.

Finta é bem útil, ainda mais se você tem a técnica do Martial Arts que lhe dá +5.

Re: Feint.
 

If his GM handles it like one of mine did, then the opponent knows he was feinted, and runs away if you did well on the feint.

Armin

Re: Feint.
 

Yeah, it's pretty handy. It seems a little weird, though, feinting then recieving an attack.

I had an unused houserule jotted down in my notes that basically stated if you critically succede on a feint as an attack option, your opponent has a penalty to his upcoming attack, as you've interrupted his assault in some way.

No mention of what penalty I thought of at the time, just some extra notes opening up to success by 5 or more, or the possibility of the opponent taking some kind of additional check.

None of these were ever used, but I figured this would be a good thread for them.

M.