Steve Jackson Games Forums

Steve Jackson Games Forums (https://forums.sjgames.com/index.php)

- Munchkin 101 (https://forums.sjgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=78)

- - Knight Mare (https://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=94749)

It says +2 against everyone else. I interpret that as +2 against non-Centaurs, but I don't think that has ever been officially ruled upon, so I may very well be wrong.

As for the Half-Centaur-Gnome, the player is not a non-Centaur, so I'd actually think the Knight Mare would be at +4. This also works with the original wording as it would be weird to say that a single munchkin could be both a Centaur and 'everyone else'.

This also solves the Centaur Wizard problem. It would be a +4 here too. I'm classifying non-Centaurs as characters that aren't considered to be Centaurs, so a Centaur's additional Races, Classes, etc. are irrelevant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clipper (Post 1497054)

As for the Half-Centaur-Gnome, the player is not a non-Centaur, so I'd actually think the Knight Mare would be at +4. This also works with the original wording as it would be weird to say that a single munchkin could be both a Centaur and 'everyone else'.

maybe I don't understand you, but very often a single munchkin is a Centaur and 'everyone else': Cleric, Thief, Wizard etc. Or they may use Half-Breed card and be a Centaur and Gnome, Elf, Dwarf etc.
a quote from FAQ says that the monster's bonuses for different Races/Classes stack if he meets munchkin with both these Races/Classes, and the Knight-Mare card does not say otherwise. So the "against Centaurs" and "against non-Centaurs" bonuses should stack and give +6 to monster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clipper (Post 1497054)

This also solves the Centaur Wizard problem. It would be a +4 here too. I'm classifying non-Centaurs as characters that aren't considered to be Centaurs, so a Centaur's additional Races, Classes, etc. are irrelevant.

we have the same sitation there.

I guess we need to stop arguing and wait for an official response.

The Knight Mare cares about Races, not any other traits. If you are a Centaur or Half-Centaur, she is at +2 against you -- she's only +4 if you have no Centaur component to your Race.

Thanks Andrew. You got the two bonuses the wrong way around, though. The Knight Mare is +4 against Centaurs and +2 against everyone else.

Also, a Half-Centaur that does not have any other Race should be able to claim they are everyone else, as that's a disadvantage to being a Centaur, right?

Could you please confirm whether I'm correct that these bonuses can stack when there are two or more different combatants on the munchkin side (via Helper or Hireling), one a Centaur and one not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kotya (Post 1497125)

Andrew's response does remove the doubt I had on this part, so I'll try to fully clarify what I meant. By non-Centaur, I don't mean having a component which is something other than Centaur. I mean being a character which is not considered to be a Centaur. A Half-Centaur-Gnome cannot say he is not a Centaur. Neither can a Centaur Wizard. A Half-Centaur with no other Race can choose if he is a Centaur or if he is not a Centaur, depending which choice is more advantageous. Thus, these two bonuses could never stack on any one character, as no character would ever be both a Centaur and a non-Centaur.

This is beginning to make my head hurt, and I did quite well in the 'proofs' segment of Geometry. If I am alone in being puzzled about how much the mare cares about whom and why, then I abase myself in front of the reader at this time.