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MunchkinMan 08-12-2012 09:41 AM

Re: Return of "Cheat"
 
The Cheat! card can seem perplexing, which is why I wrote this rather expanded explanation of it.

However, this phrase on the Cheat! card, "This item is legal for you to use even if it otherwise would not be," really does say it all: Once you have Cheat! on an Item, it will always be legal for you to use it. Neither the card nor the rules tell you that you must pick how the Cheat! card will apply to the Item you play it on.

The notion of ignoring any Item with Cheat! on it when playing a new Item is a great way to determine if you could put the new Item into play.

roguebfl 08-12-2012 11:28 AM

Re: Return of "Cheat"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan (Post 1421856)
The Cheat! card can seem perplexing, which is why I wrote this rather expanded explanation of it.

However, this phrase on the Cheat! card, "This item is legal for you to use even if it otherwise would not be," really does say it all: Once you have Cheat! on an Item, it will always be legal for you to use it. Neither the card nor the rules tell you that you must pick how the Cheat! card will apply to the Item you play it on.

The notion of ignoring any Item with Cheat! on it when playing a new Item is a great way to determine if you could put the new Item into play.

So you back the interpretation that the sword is only +3 not +6?

MunchkinMan 08-12-2012 01:11 PM

Re: Return of "Cheat"
 
Yes, it's +3.

Clipper 08-12-2012 03:03 PM

Re: Return of "Cheat"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleBob (Post 1421840)
I can't speak for Clipper, but I think he meant that the "Rule of thumb" is, if you ignore the "Cheated" card, is your set-up still valid.

So, if you pretend that the cheated "Big" item isn't in play, is everything else kosher? If so, then you're good.

Yep, that's exactly what I meant.

SolemnGolem 08-12-2012 04:44 PM

Re: Return of "Cheat"
 
Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification, UncleBob and Clipper. And yes, that way is a nice handy way of thinking about it - the card that is cheated into play is a nullity when it comes to other cards' legality.

Thanks!

Gardensnake 09-30-2012 02:00 AM

Re: Return of "Cheat"
 
Okay, another Cheat question. Can Cheat be played on a steed enhancer item to allow it to be played on a munchkin and not a steed since it is an item?

Thanks,

William

Clipper 09-30-2012 03:32 AM

Re: Return of "Cheat"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardensnake (Post 1451659)
Okay, another Cheat question. Can Cheat be played on a steed enhancer item to allow it to be played on a munchkin and not a steed since it is an item?

Thanks,

William

This recently was announced to be acceptable. This official post shows you all the things you can do with a Cheat! card and it includes playing it with a Steed Enhancer that is also an Item alone.


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