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rfmcdpei 08-10-2012 12:16 AM

Mongoose canonicity for JTAS?
 
Is the Alpha Crucis sector as described in Mongoose's new Solomani sourcebook canon for JTAS article purposes?

Thanks,
Randy

AndreaVallance 08-10-2012 05:15 AM

Re: Mongoose canonicity for JTAS?
 
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Originally Posted by rfmcdpei (Post 1420681)
Is the Alpha Crucis sector as described in Mongoose's new Solomani sourcebook canon for JTAS article purposes?

Thanks,
Randy

As far as I'm aware MgT's 3rd Imperium material is fully canon. But even if its not, I'd say write the thing.

David L Pulver 08-15-2012 12:30 AM

Re: Mongoose canonicity for JTAS?
 
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Originally Posted by rfmcdpei (Post 1420681)
Is the Alpha Crucis sector as described in Mongoose's new Solomani sourcebook canon

I tried to ensure it was, but whether it's canon for SJ Games, I don't know...

Drifter 08-15-2012 03:46 PM

Re: Mongoose canonicity for JTAS?
 
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Originally Posted by David L Pulver (Post 1423191)
...whether it's canon for SJ Games, I don't know...

Care to elaborate? I do not have much familiarity with MGT, but I can imagine any setting information would NOT be the G:T timeline with no civil war/virus/new era.

Is it, for example, set in the old default period? 1106 or so?

sjard 08-15-2012 11:50 PM

Re: Mongoose canonicity for JTAS?
 
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Originally Posted by Drifter (Post 1423534)
Care to elaborate? I do not have much familiarity with MGT, but I can imagine any setting information would NOT be the G:T timeline with no civil war/virus/new era.

Is it, for example, set in the old default period? 1106 or so?

From what I've seen of it, Mongoose Traveller is set about 1105, with no civil war, virus, new era. It seems to be an attempt to redo Classic Traveller. Half of the setting info I've seen was taken from GURPS books and backtracked in time. But, then, I've only seen the Spinward Marches book.

David L Pulver 08-16-2012 01:32 PM

Re: Mongoose canonicity for JTAS?
 
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Originally Posted by Drifter (Post 1423534)
Care to elaborate? I do not have much familiarity with MGT, but I can imagine any setting information would NOT be the G:T timeline with no civil war/virus/new era.

Is it, for example, set in the old default period? 1106 or so?

It takes place in 1105. I went carefully through old canon and semi canon - I think I read everything ever published on the Solomani - and tried to reconcile as much as possible with each other. I consulted with Marc and the other Far Future advisers on Confederation politics, factions, etc.

The separate Alpha Crucis sector publication is an excerpt from my Solomani Aliens module (it's also included in that).

(My Solomani Rim book is fairly compatible with Rim of Fire, with two deliberate exceptions regarding controversial individual worlds, e.g., the treatment of Smade's Planet, though there is a nod to RoF regarding this.)

MrTim 08-16-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by David L Pulver (Post 1423992)
with two deliberate exceptions regarding controversial individual worlds

I don't suppose you'd feel comfortable elaborating on that statement?

Drifter 08-16-2012 09:38 PM

Re: Mongoose canonicity for JTAS?
 
Sounds canon to me then.

And no fun in having Mr Pulver just tell us. We have to find the controversial worlds.

And a quick look reveals nothing obvious to me. Maybe "Snarf" at 2701 but that isn't just the name of a Thundercat, so I'm probably wrong.

David L Pulver 08-19-2012 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MrTim (Post 1424103)
I don't suppose you'd feel comfortable elaborating on that statement?

Smade's Planet has had some controversy: http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=2882 and so was removed in RoF.

I liked Smade's Planet, and my feeling was that the Sword Worlds and a lot of other planet names were also homages, so my own
preference was to address that by adding a back story that specifically recognized the world as named from science fiction, then to modify the background to explain its low population and neutral status in a way that was not a Jack Vance rip off, but still explained its low population and the existence of a small family-run government. It also gave me some details of how the Solomani Rim War actually ended, and I liked the idea of a face-to-face diplomatic meeting between the two military leaders, especially given how their legacies and families would shape the sector in the coming century.

At the same time, I left in some hooks so the name could conceivably be changed to the world name given in Rim of Fire by 1121.

In Rim of Fire - which I found was generally really good - I nevertheless felt that a few too many worlds followed a story that was "the colony was great, then the Solomani Movement arrived and things went to hell". Being a Terran by ancestry I felt the need to tell another side of the story, so my version of a few worlds, such as Prometheus, is nicer to the Solomani then to the Imperium.

One world in Rim of Fire is a planet with a plastic bag around it, an ancient artifact, added in GURPS to explain how it had a decent atmosphere despite a very small size. My feeling and those of the FFE advisers was that such an artifact would likely have been mentioned in earlier canon if it was real, and that it was out of character for the Ancients to create something like that in the Rim (where they were usually a bit quieter). The simpler solution was to adjust the planetary UPP a little. In deference to the story, however, I crafted an explanation for the "rumor" and also used it to address issues of Solomani culture and tourism.

Incidentally, there are so many homages in Solomani Rim (the original book)'s names that I felt when doing each writeup I had to do google searches of the planet to ensure that any other names of added geographic features, etc. were also in the same spirit, without being rip offs. These helped out in one or two cases where planet names referenced obscure cultural memes I was unaware of.


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