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stix101 08-06-2012 09:55 AM

Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
This is technically two questions, but it is about the same action.

Everyone was level nine, and we were all cultists except one guy who had a cultist card not in use. The woman whose turn it was was about to defeat her monster, netting her the win.

The cultist card guy immediately used his card to make himself a cultist, ending the game. She then attempted to play O'Ryleh.

First: If everyone is a cultist and the same level, do we all win?

Second: Can O'Ryleh be used on items someone has just equipped? Like, for instance, the cultist card?

Andrew Hackard 08-06-2012 10:04 AM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
You can't play a Class card when it's not your turn unless you've just received it, which isn't the case here. So that wasn't a legal play in the first place. But let's assume he used Sudden Head Blow to make himself a Cultist, which would be legal.

1) If everyone is the same Level when the game ends, all players win.

2) O R'lyeh? can cancel ANY just-played card, including a Class card.

MunchkinMan 08-06-2012 10:46 AM

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I'd like to add that the word "equipped" is not appropriate for something like a Class. This is because you become a Class, you don't put one on. Equipped is more appropriate to an Item, which you use, using the game's terminology. I'm choosing to be a little pedantic here since you can choose to not use an Item you have in play (i.e., unequip) and keep it in play, but you can't choose to not be a Class you currently are and keep the Class in play since you must discard it.

stix101 08-06-2012 11:45 AM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
Thanks for the reply, and I'm sorry I wasn't more clear. I meant the Cultist Membership Card, which is an item.

Although that is good to know about O'Ryleh.

Brf 08-06-2012 04:02 PM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
If that card was already in play, I do not believe O'Ryleh could be used to cancel it. If it was not already in play, it could not be played, since it was not the owning munchkin's turn, unless the card says it can be played to the table on another player's turn.

stix101 08-06-2012 05:12 PM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
It was on the table but sideways. However, the card says "Whenever you wish" so we let him play it. It's... a complicated card.

Clipper 08-06-2012 06:21 PM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
Then it's a legal play and everybody won the game as Level 9 Cultists.

You don't have to turn the Cult Membership Card (the core set one, not the Promo card) sideways when you are choosing to not be a Cultist, you just keep it in use and state what you want it to be at any time. Given that you can put an Item in use any time you're not in combat, it's legal for him to do what he did anyway. Also, O R'lyeh wouldn't work as a cancel as the card wasn't just played.

UncleTupelo 12-26-2012 03:19 PM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
I hope this is the right place to ask this....

What happens to any subsequent class cards once you're a cultist? For example, on my first draw I get a cultist card - as the game goes on, I draw an Investigator, a Monster Whacker, and a Cultist card.

If I understand things correctly - I'm already a cultist, so I can't change my class, I can't "carry" the cards and I can't discard anything from the five cards in my hand?

Clipper 12-26-2012 03:30 PM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
Yep, unless you become a Super Munchkin, those cards are stuck in your hand until you are forced to give them away or discard them via Charity.

MunchkinMan 12-27-2012 11:59 AM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleTupelo (Post 1496692)
I hope this is the right place to ask this....

Sometimes, it's just best to create a brand new thread if your question isn't a follow up to the original question. That way, you don't have to wonder if you're doing something wrong.

Quote:

What happens to any subsequent class cards once you're a cultist? For example, on my first draw I get a cultist card - as the game goes on, I draw an Investigator, a Monster Whacker, and a Cultist card.

If I understand things correctly - I'm already a cultist, so I can't change my class, I can't "carry" the cards and I can't discard anything from the five cards in my hand?
Bear in mind that you are never forced to become a Class just because you drew it. So, if you didn't want to be a Cultist when you drew the card, you didn't have to play the card. It should just go into your hand. The only time you are required to become a Cultist is when another card says so and there are Cultist cards in the special Cultist discard pile, as mentioned in the rules.

grassy67 01-26-2013 03:37 PM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
Hi all,

My question relates to this one. What would happen in the following scenario? Every player bar two are bonafide cultists (ie. they have cultist class cards in play) and of the two remaining players, one has a cult membership card which is being used to equip cultist-only items, while the last player is not currently a cultist but has a cultist class card in his hand, and has the highest level. On his turn, can this player become a cultist and win the game even though one of the other players is not a bonafide cultist but is just using the membership card (remembering that the membership card allows the holder to be treated like a cultist)?

Clipper 01-26-2013 06:56 PM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
The Cult Membership Card (and to be clear, the one from Munchkin Cthulhu, not the Promo of the same name) allows you to choose whether you want to be a Cultist for each thing that would affect them individually.

So in your situation, the player with the Cult Membership card would probably choose not to be a Cultist for the purposes of ending the game, and they would also go up a level for being the last non-Cultist. They can even keep their Cultist-only Items in use while claiming this. If the card carrying member ever did have the highest Level, they could choose to instantly end the game and win too.

Smitters 04-04-2017 01:11 AM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
How many times the last non-cultist get a level up?

If the last player who's not a cultist gets his level, and later a cultist loses his Cultist class, and there is another (or the same) last non-Cultist, does the last non-cultist get a level again?

Or does that only trigger once?

Andrew Hackard 04-04-2017 06:08 AM

Re: Munchkin Cthulhu Question Cultist Card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitters (Post 2088624)
If the last player who's not a cultist gets his level, and later a cultist loses his Cultist class, and there is another (or the same) last non-Cultist, does the last non-cultist get a level again?

Every time any player becomes the only non-Cultist, that player gets a level. It doesn't matter if that player has already received a level for becoming the only non-Cultist.


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