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Qoltar 05-29-2012 09:37 PM

Re: G:STAR TREK , Need 'Trek-specific' Disadvantages and Quirks...
 
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Originally Posted by Captain-Captain (Post 1382935)
Klingin raises tribbles

That situation has not happened yet - its the 2250s.

- Ed C.


Oh, its Klingon, not 'klingin'.

sir_pudding 05-29-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Qoltar (Post 1382941)
That situation has not happened yet - its the 2250s.

Klingons and tribbles seem to dislike each other prior to Troubles with Tribbles.

Qoltar 05-29-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by malloyd (Post 1382923)
...... When does the Federation start replicating uniforms anyway?

Not until the 24th Century (TNG/DS9 era)

My campaign is set in the late 2250s.

The TOS episodes/TAS stories are set between 2265 and 2271

The deckplans we use refer to Fabrication areas and reclamation areas of machinery. To me that means the ship has someone functioniung as a Quartermaster and also someone in Engineering or Operations who makes replacement uniforms or repairs damaged ones.


- ED C.

lwcamp 05-29-2012 11:59 PM

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Incomprehensible Silicon Based Being.

Super Godlike Powers Depend on Secret Hidden Energy Source.

Dependence: Planets. Daily (that is, must eat a planet every day).

Effects/Speed/Power Level Varies With Demands Of Plot.

Eh, that's all I've got for right now.

Luke

Flyndaran 05-30-2012 10:29 AM

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OPH: relates to Federation crew as if they still behaved as one specific time and place in human history.

Qoltar 05-30-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1383192)
OPH: relates to Federation crew as if they still behaved as one specific time and place in human history.

How is that useful or believable for pre-generated and non-player characters?

- Ed C.

Flyndaran 05-30-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Qoltar (Post 1383313)
How is that useful or believable for pre-generated and non-player characters?

- Ed C.

I was just thinking of some of the more odd and memorable characters from the old show.

Gold & Appel Inc 05-30-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1383378)
I was just thinking of some of the more odd and memorable characters from the old show.

Are we talking about people like the guys on the Planet of the Hats here, or a specific recurring character?

Whitestreak 05-30-2012 07:46 PM

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Has anyone mentioned:

Afraid of using a transporter? You could even up it to require the need for sedation to be able to go through a transporter.

Flyndaran 05-30-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gold & Appel Inc (Post 1383456)
Are we talking about people like the guys on the Planet of the Hats here, or a specific recurring character?

I watched all the old episodes, but it's been quite a while. I may be making a bigger deal out of a couple of incidents than they really were.
I thinking Trelane, those two alien "witches", and the OK Corral ones.
Then there are main characters that always have some obsession with an easily identified, to us, period of earth history from the later series.

Flyndaran 05-30-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitestreak (Post 1383461)
Has anyone mentioned:

Afraid of using a transporter? You could even up it to require the need for sedation to be able to go through a transporter.

Unless it was a recent phobia/ideology, I imagine they would never have joined Starfleet to begin with.

Qoltar 05-30-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1383464)
Then there are main characters that always have some obsession with an easily identified, to us, period of earth history from the later series.

Thats not actually 'odd' when compared to current day folks who love going to Rennaissance festivals asnd SCA events or those who are involvced in Civil War re-enacting events.

Thats called having a hobby or a semblance of a life.

- Ed C.

Flyndaran 05-30-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Qoltar (Post 1383480)
Thats not actually 'odd' when compared to current day folks who love going to Rennaissance festivals asnd SCA events or those who are involvced in Civil War re-enacting events.

Thats called having a hobby or a semblance of a life.

- Ed C.

Ah, but Renaissance and SCA are very inaccurate historically. I'll give you Civil War re-enactors, but they are weird in general. :)
Hobby was Paris' love of B&W adventure serials.
Too often their very specific interest only popped out when it just happened to have relation to the day's plot.

Gold & Appel Inc 05-31-2012 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1383482)
Hobby was Paris' love of B&W adventure serials.
Too often their very specific interest only popped out when it just happened to have relation to the day's plot.

Oh sure, as a hobby lots of Starfleet characters have been shown to have a strong interest in a specific historical period. We take it a step farther in my Trek game: Our PCs are practically required to be familiar with one, because we spend a lot of time undercover on lower tech worlds (mine's an Age of Sail buff).

Alden Loveshade 07-11-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashtagon (Post 1378105)
Nope That's just Kirk.

Although I would make Racism towards other species a taboo trait for ST humans. It may exist within humanity, but such individuals wouldn't make it to Star Fleet anyway.

I'm not so sure about that. Please forgive me for speaking in ignorance, for while I'm enough of a Trekker to know Spock's blood type and what Earth juice Worf prefers, I haven't seen Abrams' movie.

Perhaps we can ignore Spock's racist comments against humans and Dr. McCoy's against vulcans as mutual teasing.

But in ToS and the movies from it there was definite racism in Star Fleet, especially against the "bad guy race" Klingons. Some from ST VI as listed at
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102975/quotes

Captain Kirk: "I've never trusted Klingons, and I never will. I could never forgive them for the death of my boy." If we substituted "blacks" or "Jews" for Klingon, I think we'd definitely consider that racist.

[on whether to help the Klingons]
Captain James T. Kirk: They're animals.
Captain Spock: Jim, there is an historic opportunity here.
Captain James T. Kirk: Don't believe them. Don't trust them.
Captain Spock: They're dying.
Captain James T. Kirk: Let them die!


In TNG I remember Commander Riker making disparaging remarks about other sapient races more than once. I don't remember the exact quote, but one time he compared an intelligent race to fish--and not in a good way.

Alden Loveshade 07-11-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gold & Appel Inc (Post 1378410)
There's a pretty distinct difference between Broad-Minded [-1] and Xenophilia [-10*]. IMHO, Kirk has the former + Lecherousness. Xenophilia is when you're more interested because they're alien, not just blind to green skin as long as T&A are present...

I certainly agree with the Broad-Minded vs. Xenophilia part. I consider myself broad-minded, but if I saw a 10-foot tall spider on my front porch I would be rather hesitant to open the door and say, "Howdy!"

But I disagree with Kirk having Lecherousness. Maybe he does at a Quirk level because he seemed in control of when he flirted and when he didn't.

quarkstomper 07-11-2012 06:46 PM

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Hey, he can't help it if all these gorgeous space babes keep falling into his lap!

(Hm... how many points would "Space Babe Magnet" be worth...?)

Sunrunners_Fire 07-11-2012 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by quarkstomper (Post 1406935)
Hey, he can't help it if all these gorgeous space babes keep falling into his lap!

(Hm... how many points would "Space Babe Magnet" be worth...?)

Its' a themed Serendipity with the appropriate limitations.

Lemn0c 07-11-2012 07:55 PM

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Late to this thread, but I would expect every Federation officer would have the Code Against Killing Disad, the Prime Directive Disad, Politically Correct Disad, and the Reliant Dependent Disad for every officer / crewman under his / her command.

Played right, those ought to be considerable, constraining types of disadvantages. Enforce the genre.

EDIT: Probably you could construct a Starfleet Officer package worth 1XX+ points of Disadvantages that is a standard package that comes with commission.

fredtheobviouspseudonym 07-11-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by malloyd (Post 1382923)
. . . Always trying to build a paper trail to defend myself at the "inevitable" court martial I'm sure the department head is trying to set me up for (quirk level Paranoia). . .

IIRC almost all records, even in TOS, were on computer -- hence the near-conviction of Kirk in "Court Martial." Says a lot about the 1960s that it took a long time for anyone to think that the "infallible" computer had been hacked. Suspect any 1985+ lawyer would immediately wonder and demand a computer forensics exam thereon. So a character who insists on "Dead Tree" records (even if on plastic) would appear as nutty as a 2012 bureaucrat who wants all his personnel records on baked clay tablets. Might draw a psychiatric evaluation.
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Mildly allergic to the standard laundry detergent - hand washes his own clothes, when absolutely necessary. When does the Federation start replicating uniforms anyway?
In "The Making of Star Trek," Roddenberry (quoted, not author) explained that he thought all uniforms in his milieu would be one-use items -- they'd be worn, tossed into the material recycling bin, and new ones produced by machine. TOS didn't refer to this. However, Roddenberry insisted to Gerrold (in the latter's book on the making of "The Trouble with Tribbles" that no Star Fleet uniform would ever have pockets -- if you needed to hold things you'd wear an equipment belt with attachable pouches.

Possible quirk -- doesn't trust replicator to remove all production chemicals and hand-washes all uniforms before donning them.


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