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OldSam 02-15-2012 06:51 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
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Originally Posted by martin_rook (Post 1322742)
I agree that GURPS lite + adventure + some counters and maps would be a great product to physically put on the shelves, and Orcslayer looks like a good adventure for that.

I just noticed the new Pathfinder Beginner Box which seems to be very popular...
Something like that with GURPS would be awesome and I'm quite sure it would be especially attractive for people new to the system.


Content could be like that (of course not everything would be a 'must have' but all that leaves out no wishes :p)

- A customized version of GURPS Lite, for instance only rules needed for Fantasy and fitting to that Orcslayer Adventure. With some more detailed examples to make things really easy to learn.
- Orcslayer for 4e and another following pre-made adventure or even a small campaign for that setting. Ideally a small solo-adventure, too ;)
- 5 or 6 ready-to-play sample Fantasy Characters.
- 5 or 6 blank Char Sheets.
- A nice color map which fits to the given adventures.
- A set of nice cardboard heroes with images of the sample PCs and the NPCs/Creatures for the given adventures.
- Three appealing d6's.


That would be so great and I think it makes a REALLY great gift for any gamer!! :)

David Johansen 02-15-2012 07:28 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
Heh, well, not quite what I'd do.

Two copies of GURPS Lite with cardboard covers.
One copy of GURPS Fantasy Lite with magic, races, and monsters.
One copy of GURPS Banestorm.
Two double-sided battle map posters.
18 1/32 scale plastic figures. Yeah I've got a problem, need help, blah blah blah whatever :D

So two sprues of orcs and one of reptile men and one of adventurers with separate weapon hands.

I figure a male knight, a female knight, a dwarf, an elf, a female thief, and a male wizard. The orcs would have separate heads and weapons.

Sure you could go 1/56 but GURPS maps are clearly 1/36 and 1/32 is a well supported scale. Also, soft plastic may be cheaper to moulds for. I'm not quite sure these days, it used to be but the technology has really changed the last few years.

demonsbane 02-15-2012 07:39 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
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Originally Posted by martin_rook (Post 1322742)
I agree that GURPS lite + adventure + some counters and maps would be a great product to physically put on the shelves, and Orcslayer looks like a good adventure for that. Maybe a 4th edition update could also alter the details so it's not the Yrth/Banestorm setting? Perhaps a better solution would be to update it for "modern" Yrth, but...

I have always noticed that the free Caravan to Ein Arris does not take place on Yrth. It also struck me that the new DF adventure has setting names and features that resemble the Ein Arris setting a good deal. Maybe a 4th edition Orcslayer could be reconstructed to be comparable with those adventures.

If there were a new Orcslayer, I would be interested on it but only if the Yrth/Banestorm setting were completely discarded from the product.

Ronnke 02-15-2012 07:54 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
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Originally Posted by OldSam (Post 1323575)
That would be so great and I think it makes a REALLY great gift for any gamer!! :)

It's also the type of product that sells in Target/Walmart, which have a large potential customer base.

I'm a veteran GURPS'er who has little need for such a product, but I would still buy it.

Rasputin 02-15-2012 08:06 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
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Originally Posted by OldSam (Post 1323575)
I just noticed the new Pathfinder Beginner Box which seems to be very popular...
Something like that with GURPS would be awesome and I'm quite sure it would be especially attractive for people new to the system.

Boxes are pricey for the manufacturer. If it were a soft-cover with detachable character sheets, however, that might work.

ericbsmith 02-15-2012 08:13 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 1323616)
Boxes are pricey for the manufacturer. If it were a soft-cover with detachable character sheets, however, that might work.

I'll go you one more and suggest that a sheet of Cardboard Heroes be included. Once you have a "gameboard" and "cut-out playing pieces" you may be able to sell the game as a standalone to some of the retail stores.

Ronnke 02-15-2012 08:16 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
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Originally Posted by David Johansen (Post 1323589)
Heh, well, not quite what I'd do.

Two copies of GURPS Lite with cardboard covers.
One copy of GURPS Fantasy Lite with magic, races, and monsters.
One copy of GURPS Banestorm.
Two double-sided battle map posters.
18 1/32 scale plastic figures. Yeah I've got a problem, need help, blah blah blah whatever :D

While nice, I think it would raise the price tag too high for an entry level game.

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Originally Posted by demonsbane (Post 1323594)
If there were a new Orcslayer, I would be interested on it but only if the Yrth/Banestorm setting were completely discarded from the product.

Banestorm is such a fantastic setting, but not an requirement to run Orcslayer as there is enough setting info in the adventure to inform the players.

Rasputin 02-15-2012 08:21 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
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Originally Posted by ericbsmith (Post 1323622)
I'll go you one more and suggest that a sheet of Cardboard Heroes be included. Once you have a "gameboard" and "cut-out playing pieces" you may be able to sell the game as a standalone to some of the retail stores.

And I was just about to post again to suggest that little oversight.

As a side note, has SJG ever considered selling Cardboard Heroes PDFs tied to its products? Say, Mirror of the Fire Demon. For something like $3.99, there's a PDF of cardboard figures of all the creatures in the adventure on e23. Dungeon Fantasy and Monster Hunters work well for this kind of thing, as does Creatures of the Night.

Ronnke 02-15-2012 08:26 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 1323616)
Boxes are pricey for the manufacturer. If it were a soft-cover with detachable character sheets, however, that might work.

If the box is too pricey then I imagine the books could still be plastic wrapped with the cardboard heroes, plastic bases, sheets, maps and dice. The box just looks like a more inviting product, and ideally you want to factor box price into the final price anyway.

Rasputin 02-15-2012 08:38 PM

Re: GURPS Orcslayer - Entry level GURPS
 
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Originally Posted by Ronnke (Post 1323629)
If the box is too pricey then I imagine the books could still be plastic wrapped with the cardboard heroes, plastic bases, sheets, maps and dice. The box just looks like a more inviting product, and ideally you want to factor box price into the final price anyway.

You don't need plastic bases for cardboard heroes, and dice ... one of the appeals of GURPS is that it uses three six siders, something you can find around the house.

Plastic wrap isn't bad, but it keeps you from looking at the book in the bookstore. That's one of the big draws of the bookstore.


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