Garage Sale Question
 

The Garage sale card says "Choose one item and discard it". Does the item have to be one in front of the player playing the garage sale or can it be in front of any player.

Our table ruled that it was an item in front of the player playing it.

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It sounds like you're asking whether or not Garage Sale applies only to items in play or also to cards in your hand.

Just looked at the card and it only says to choose an item with no regards as to whether or not it was already in play, so I would assume that any item in your possession would be legal to use for this purpose.

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I believe he's asking if you can choose an item that's in play in front of another player. The answer to that is "No."

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Yes...I was asking what Chad said.

The text on the card that I have says "Play this card as soon as you get it, or at any later time when it's your turn. Choose one item and discard it. Then dig through the discards and take any two items, each of value equal or less than the one you discarded"

Items are by definition something on the table not in your hand. So it has to be down on the table to be used for Garage sale.

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This is taken from the rulesheet you get with "Munchkin Deluxe"
"Each Item card has a name, a power, a size, and a value in Gold Pieces.
An item card in your hand does not count untill you play it; at that point,
it is "carried."

A item is basicly a Item card (treasure card) with a Gold piece price, or "No Value".

Garage Sale does not say anything about, if the Item you discard, have to be carried, in use, or on your hand.

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Treasure cards in your hand that have Gold values are just cards. They are not Items until they have hit the table.

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This is confirmed. Unless something specifically mentions cards in your hand, they are exempt from all Curses and Bad Stuff. (Even when it would be to your advantage.)

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This line, right here, "An item card in your hand does not count until you play it," says that Item cards in your hand don't count as Items, so regardless of what Garage Sale says, nothing on it contradicts that rule.

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Figured someone would catch this before I got a chance. Not all Items are Treasure Cards. Some Door Cards are actually Items (some Hirelings, Steeds, Ships). So regardless of what kind of card it is, if it has a Gold Value, or "No Value" it is an item.

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It has the potential to be an Item. It doesn't become an Item until it is played on the table.

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Yes. That was already established so I left it out to put more emphasis on the error.

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Thank you for correcting me. I should have known that, but managed somehow Not to write it down, with all the other stuff i wrote.

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Sorry to revive a long-dormant thread, but what about items that can’t be played to the table, such as item/steed enhancers? Do they go to your hand, or are they not eligible to Garage Sale in the first place?

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If they (a) have a Gold Piece value and (b) are in play, they are legal targets of Garage Sale. If either (a) or (b) is not true, then they are not legal targets of Garage Sale.

Now if the question is "can they be one of the two cards I pick out of the discards," then only (a) matters. Cards without a Gold Piece value may not be retrieved with Garage Sale, period.

(As always, "No Value" is the same as "0 Gold Pieces" for these purposes.)

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I realize that I wasn’t clear in my phrasing... I was asking about taking items from the discard pile. I was assuming that they must also remain as items (i.e. they go directly into play), which may be an invalid assumption to begin with.

If my assumption is correct, does an item that is retrieved using Garage Sale that cannot legally be played immediately go into your hand? As an example, Mean Medicine... it can only be played on a hireling. If you do not have hireling in play when you take it, does it go into your hand?

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You put them in your hand and then may play them if you wish and are able.

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I've seen people mention this "items not considered if in hand" thing, but I don't see it the deluxe rules I have. If a card has a value, it is an item. Otherwise, it isn't. The Garage Sale card doesn't mention it, either.

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Cards in your hand are not items yet. Period. The relevant passage was quoted earlier in the thread and further highlighted by MunchkinMan. Anything posted in the forums by Andrew Hackard and/or MunchkinMan are rules, not opinions.

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Oh, I see, my bad! I didn't pay attention to the user names, sorry :)

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The Garage Sale card doesn't mention it because the relevant rule is in the rules of every core and Deluxe game, right on page 1: Cards in your hand are not in play. They don’t help you, but they can’t be taken away except by cards that specifically affect “your hand.”

Ducallan is a brilliant and wise poster! This is a rule, not an opinion.

Less flippantly, both M'Man and I do sometimes post opinions, but both of us try to indicate when we aren't speaking as Rules Experts™.