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Anthony 11-22-2011 04:27 PM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
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Originally Posted by David Johnston2 (Post 1282378)
"Bends easily" is actually a pretty good thing when you're up against bullets and tank shells.

I said 'soft', not 'flexible'. Aluminum isn't all that flexible, and at the same weight is generally less flexible (due to being thicker), but it's soft, which means you can cut it with a blade.

As for anodizing, if you can produce aluminum at all you can handle anodizing it. The only way you'd be unable to do that is if for some reason you have a supply of found aluminum, and any such aluminum will have been manufactured, it simply doesn't occur in pure or semi-pure form in nature.

Phaelen Bleux 11-22-2011 05:40 PM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
Way back when I designed the M113, I was told aluminum armor has 1/3 the DR for the same thickness (or in this case, weight):

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=64749

starslayer 11-22-2011 11:07 PM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
Transparent aluminum is stronger then tempered wire reinforced bulletproof glass

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_ceramics

so it should at least have superior DR/weight to tempered wire reinforced glass (or if somehow being used for body armour, better then glass with the shatterproof spell on it).

sir_pudding 11-22-2011 11:27 PM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
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Originally Posted by starslayer (Post 1282580)
Transparent aluminum is stronger then tempered wire reinforced bulletproof glass

That's a ceramic composite. It's not metallic aluminum. It's only called that because of The Voyage Home.

lwcamp 11-22-2011 11:39 PM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
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Originally Posted by starslayer (Post 1282580)
Transparent aluminum is stronger then tempered wire reinforced bulletproof glass

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_ceramics

so it should at least have superior DR/weight to tempered wire reinforced glass (or if somehow being used for body armour, better then glass with the shatterproof spell on it).

What you reference is most certainly not transparent aluminum. It is transparent alumina (among other things) - very different.

Luke

Anthony 11-23-2011 01:49 AM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
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Originally Posted by lwcamp (Post 1282600)
What you reference is most certainly not transparent aluminum. It is transparent alumina (among other things) - very different.

Yeah, the only way to make transparent metallic aluminum is by having it extremely thin (aluminized mylar) or having holes in it (wire mesh screens).

Fred Brackin 11-23-2011 09:58 AM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
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Originally Posted by starslayer (Post 1282580)
Transparent aluminum ).

Aieeeee! Fetch the torches and the pitchforks! The undead arwe among us!

malloyd 11-23-2011 10:05 AM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 1282595)
That's a ceramic composite. It's not metallic aluminum. It's only called that because of The Voyage Home.

Which has always struck me as strange when you could just as legitimately sell it as Sapphire, which you'd think would have a broader market appeal.

sir_pudding 11-23-2011 03:43 PM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
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Originally Posted by malloyd (Post 1282822)
Which has always struck me as strange when you could just as legitimately sell it as Sapphire, which you'd think would have a broader market appeal.

Then you lose the "How do'ye know he didna invent the ting?" jokes. I suspect the inventors are geeks.

Ulzgoroth 11-23-2011 03:53 PM

Re: How good would Aluminum armor be?
 
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Originally Posted by Phaelen Bleux (Post 1282421)
Way back when I designed the M113, I was told aluminum armor has 1/3 the DR for the same thickness (or in this case, weight):

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=64749

...Aluminum and steel have radically different densities. It may have 1/3 DR by thickness, or 1/3 DR by weight, but it cannot possibly have both.


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