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Pragmatic 10-02-2011 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny1A.2 (Post 1255662)
It's also already claimed and owned.

The above actually applies to most colonial activity to some degree, the settlement of New England, for ex, by religious expatriates was an unreasonable expenditure of money, effort, and risk...except that they didn't think so by their standards.
Wasn't it also the case that they had originally planned to land in the Virginia area, but the captain of the ship was paid off to land somewhere else? Or is that simply rumors that I read?

combatmedic 10-02-2011 04:11 PM
Re: Terraforming the Solar System
 
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Originally Posted by Pragmatic (Post 1256790)
Wasn't it also the case that they had originally planned to land in the Virginia area, but the captain of the ship was paid off to land somewhere else? Or is that simply rumors that I read?
You are, in fact, correct about the Mayflower. It was supposed to land in Virginia Colony (at a point further north than modern day Virginia, by the way), but it went off-course. This only accounts for the Pilgrims, however. These were the settlers at Plymouth, not the Puritans at Mass. Bay.

Flyndaran 10-02-2011 05:11 PM
Re: Terraforming the Solar System
 
We are all talking about Traveller, so realism isn't that necessary. Ballpark figure is better than some aspects of the game canon, after all.

combatmedic 10-02-2011 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1256827)
We are all talking about Traveller, so realism isn't that necessary. Ballpark figure is better than some aspects of the game canon, after all.
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about rules or setting? Which rules? Which setting? What is 'canon'?


There are as many approaches to 'Traveller' as there are Traveller GMs, I would imagine. Some people prefer to lean towards 'hard SF' and others lean towards 'space opera.'

Flyndaran 10-02-2011 08:20 PM
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Then you aren't really talking Traveller, but Space campaigns.

Hans Rancke-Madsen 10-02-2011 09:05 PM
Re: Terraforming the Solar System
 
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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1256827)
We are all talking about Traveller, so realism isn't that necessary. Ballpark figure is better than some aspects of the game canon, after all.
I've done my share of criticizing Traveller canon, but my preferred solutions involve fixing it, not ignoring it.


Hans

combatmedic 10-02-2011 10:38 PM
Re: Terraforming the Solar System
 
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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1256906)
Then you aren't really talking Traveller, but Space campaigns.
I'm quite sure I know what I'm talking about, Flyn.

Traveller is several things:

It's a game system by GDW, called Traveller.

It is also the several spin offs and later versions of that system. This includes Megatraveller, T4, and Mongoose Traveller.

It is the 'Traveller Universe' of Marc Miller and associated authors.

It is all the many settings created or adapted by Traveller GMs, whether those settings use some version of the 'official Traveller universe' or not.

It is GURPS Traveller, which uses an alternate history take on the OTU. To the real OTU purists, GURPS Traveller is not canon! :)

Hans Rancke-Madsen 10-02-2011 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by combatmedic (Post 1256945)
It is GURPS Traveller, which uses an alternate history take on the OTU. To the real OTU purists, GURPS Traveller is not canon! :)
To the discerning OTU purist, however, any GT reference to the time before the Change Point is canon for the OTU too. The two universes are supposedly identical up to the CP.


Hans

Flyndaran 10-02-2011 10:43 PM
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It's retro-sci-fi. Fixing it would make it a different genre.

combatmedic 10-02-2011 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Hans Rancke-Madsen (Post 1256947)
To the discerning OTU purist, however, any GT reference to the time before the Change Point is canon for the OTU too. The two universes are supposedly identical up to the CP.


Hans

Hehehe, who said most purists are discerning? Ah, and what exactly IS the 'Change Point'?
:0


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